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    Which / What Viscosity / Engine OIL type? Do you guys use, results, feedback?

    Hi everyone, i would like to ask guys who is pushing over 400bhp and running in 11 sec club or lower, what kind of oil and viscosityies they are using! What their results?

    On my rebuild engine i have stockish clearances ~0.030 - 0.035 mm clearances, if it helps to anyone!)
    Currently not even on the ground yet, going to break in with coulple of oil changes with 5w30, but than im thinking to go with eather 10w40 or 15w50, (no oil cooler system yet)


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    Lots of reading about oil on my350z forum - http://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-d...-and-info.html


    More like a sticky now:

    Thread about Royal Purple: Royal Purple FTW :)

    What "viscosity" oil do you use in your Skyline

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    I've used 0w30 to 20w50 in mine. Starts easiest and runs best with 0w30 during cold weather in my experience. When I had 20w50, it was way to thick at startup and the car felt like **** until it was up to operating temperature. Once it was up to temp it felt nice, though. Switched to a 0 weight on the advice of a local member who was concerned about how thick a 20w is during warm up. Once me car is back up and happy, the weather will be warming up again so I'll try a 5w40.

    I'd mostly be concerned about the first number in modern engines. You want that oil to be thin enough to get into the tightest spaces asap at start up. Second number, 30 seems good for colder weather, with 40 and 50 being good during our brief Canadian summers.

    I have no experience in the oil industry, and am going purely on my own experiences as well as the experiences of others that I have read/heard. Don't take this post as anything more

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    I use 5W40 Motul 8100 X-Cess, works great!
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    you using regular mineral oil for break-in?

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    Royal purple 15w50
    oil pressure is stronger And I have an oem oil pump
    Car barely starts at 0 degreese but great in the summer
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    Stock motor, holset HX40, power fc d-jetro, bolt ons, 20psi = 492rwhp 364 lbft

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    I havent had a chance to run legit oil yet but i was running 10W40 Castrol for the break in. Never got out of break in though.

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    running excessively thick oil to increase pressure is a not a good thing, ideally with oil at operating temp you want to have oil pressure as speced by a service manual (I'm assuming a motor with internals that aren't highly modified). Now I am not sure what the stock oil pumps bypass pressure rating is but once oil pressure is exceeding that limit you are limiting the volume of oil flowing through your motor, and since pump flow is related to rpm you don't want pressure to rise to fast, or you will be hitting the limit at too low of an rpm.

    this is a good read on oil http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/faq...=haas_articles

    In general flow is what creates seperation in a bearing, and also provides cooling.
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    You can buy a break in additive to use as well. My engine guy recomends Shell rotella for the initial break in with the additive. Yes its diseal oil, I guess there still allowed to use lead etc. in diseal oils so people are using the stuff in gas engines now. Lots of classic cars and hot rods etc run the stuff. Not good for your cats though........

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyRHD View Post
    running excessively thick oil to increase pressure is a not a good thing, ideally with oil at operating temp you want to have oil pressure as speced by a service manual (I'm assuming a motor with internals that aren't highly modified). Now I am not sure what the stock oil pumps bypass pressure rating is but once oil pressure is exceeding that limit you are limiting the volume of oil flowing through your motor, and since pump flow is related to rpm you don't want pressure to rise to fast, or you will be hitting the limit at too low of an rpm.

    this is a good read on oil http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/faq...=haas_articles

    In general flow is what creates seperation in a bearing, and also provides cooling.
    This.

    People, stop wanting to run like the big boys by using the thick stuff when it's unnecessary. I'm running 5W30 to the manual's pressure specs with no heat soak problem (never got higher than 95°C). The TSM calls for a 10+ weight increase when OIL RUNNING TEMP is higher than 100ish IIRC, so I'd seriously be weary of using thicker than spec for a break in, especially when OEM bearing lubrification spec is factored in.

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    Also, quick engineering lesson, with pumps, maxing the pressure vs flow chart can results in stall, meaning there's actually barely any flow in the system because all the energy is lost through parasitic drag.
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    I tried a few different oil's before using the 15w50 which my tuner recommended after two different tunes with different oil.
    With a different set up of internals other than oem I'd use a different oil
    With how my engine runs with my set up, the 15w50 made the overall drive feel stronger
    When I say oil pressure was increased, its only noticeable before warm up.
    Just seems to work best for me and was also recommended by a knowledgable person
    R33 GTST RB25DET series 1
    Stock motor, holset HX40, power fc d-jetro, bolt ons, 20psi = 492rwhp 364 lbft

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