Ontario LEGAL:

[Terrh]

Thought I'd make this post as I was digging through the HTA anyways.

WHAT IS LEGAL (and what is not)

hmm where to start.

well, I guess with RHD:

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#BK117 is the law covering right hand drive.

What this means is as long as you have turn signals you don't need a right hand drive sticker.


LIGHTING

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#BK116

Note that as long as your bulbs don't have a coating on them they seem to be legal. It doesn't even mention HID's or RHD reflector patterns.

Radar Detectors

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...s_90h08_e.htm#


Exhaust systems

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#BK131


The wording of the exhaust system law kind of sucks.
IANAL but it seems to me that motorcycles (pretty much all of them, sportbikes and harleys especially) are just flat out illegal and ignored by the police. There is no clear definition as to what is legal and what isn't. What level of noise constitutes "unnecessary" I am not sure.

I got that ticket once for doing a burnout, something that didn't make much noise at all. And I don't think that harley guys are even CLOSE to legal since there's nothing that even resembles a muffler on those vehicles at all, nevermind a quiet one.


SEAT BELTS
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#BK168
Illegal to remove or modify the OEM seat belts in any vehicle.


Any other questions or opinions about the laws feel free to ask here, or refer to the above document. Those are the actual laws, if someone says something but it isn't in there, it's not the law. And if someone says something is OK but it's in there as not OK, it's illegal.

Also note that flaunting knowledge of laws infront of a police officer is a sure way to piss them off and get you tickets.

If you are recieving a ticket and you don't think you did something wrong, that's what court is for. Get a lawyer, and go have your day. Police officers and lawyers know more about this than you.

[Turismo]

Fixed Radar Detector Link (speed measuring device)

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#s79s1

[Turismo]

Noise, smoke, bells and horns

Muffler

75. (1) Every motor vehicle or motor assisted bicycle shall be equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise and excessive smoke, and no person shall use a muffler cut-out, straight exhaust, gutted muffler, hollywood muffler, by-pass or similar device upon a motor vehicle or motor assisted bicycle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (1).

Can you not can say the aftermarket muffler is preventing the excessive, unusual noise of the exhaust that would exsist without any muffler at all?


Unnecessary noise

(4) A person having the control or charge of a motor vehicle shall not sound any bell, horn or other signalling device so as to make an unreasonable noise, and a driver of any motor vehicle shall not permit any unreasonable amount of smoke to escape from the motor vehicle, nor shall the driver at any time cause the motor vehicle to make any unnecessary noise, but this subsection does not apply to a motor vehicle of a municipal fire department while proceeding to a fire or answering a fire alarm call. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (4).

if the vehicle is operating normally, without any specific momentary control, then isn't all noise considered nessesary for it to operate?

[Shadao]

tire screeching, loud stereo's, cop style sirens, la coka racha horns are all possible unneccessary noise makers...

back firing is unneccessary noise and it is not something you hear come from a normally operated vehicle... well one thats in proper working order anyways...

WTF is a hollywood muffler?

[Terrh]

I think that law was written a LONG time ago.


I had no idea what a hollywood muffler was so I looked it up, and I'm still not sure.

I think it's some type of muffler that makes the car louder, like a megaphone.

[boost-god]

it has probably been mentioned before, an srt-4 (neon , dont know about caliber), comes without a muffler from factory.

[Terrh]

it has probably been mentioned before, an srt-4 (neon , dont know about caliber), comes without a muffler from factory.

yeah I have no idea how they get away with that either. It doesn't make sense to me that some vehicle (SRT4, harleys, etc) can not have mufflers, but other vehicles get ticketed without them? What if I swapped an SRT4 exhaust onto my GTR (would be impossible without relocating the gas tank, but just say it were...), would that be legal?

There are still some uncertainties here but that's what the law states. If anyone here has any experience on the subject I hope they post.

[DeviantRebel442]

ouch on the seatbelts...so no legal takata harnesses then...

blows...

thank god im in BC

also thank god radar detectors arent illegal here

[RHD180]

it has probably been mentioned before, an srt-4 (neon , dont know about caliber), comes without a muffler from factory.

It's turbo though. Quiets it down quite a bit.

[Wingnut]

if the vehicle is operating normally, without any specific momentary control, then isn't all noise considered nessesary for it to operate?

I once got pulled over for compressor surge...