JDM supra TT or Skyline GTR pros and cons??

[BlackAura]

If you are willing to spend good money on a GTR. $20000 upward plus shipping, you can get a mint, super low mileage stock R32 GTR that will be as reliable as a Corolla! The GTR have a bad reputation in Canada for being unreliable because their owners are cheap! Good GTR's are expensive!

I had bought my GTR from Nismo/Zele International in Japan which is one of the best shops in Japan and she was super reliable! No complaints from the new owner so far!

Ditto! I have loved every minute of having this car (2 summers now), and it has only had 4 weeks or so of downtime due to repairs that I could control (first 2 weeks were me waiting for an oil filter...should have ordered one sooner, second 2 weeks were waiting for the Brake Master Cylinder rebuild kit).

Unfortunately due to circumstances I can't really control....it's been sitting in the shop for almost 2 months now waiting for parts (it was broken into and the new steering lock has been on back order for 40 some odd days now). So...even though I've been good about it (bought an excellent condition car, kept the maintenance up, etc), I've still been hit with the "takes forever to get parts" problem

[tokes]

If I was going to spend 20+ grand on a GTR I would be buying one built to all hell and back by a good shop, not a stock one.

[mcfly]

not breaking transmissions > breaking transmissions

If I had to do it all over again I would have got a MKIV.

You can fix transmissions. Can't fix your 1000 hp supra from running 11's.

[GTR-Dad]

You can fix transmissions. Can't fix your 1000 hp supra from running 11's.

+1 and a good laugh!

My favorite car joke is 'What do a 400 hp and a 600 hp Supra have in common? 12 second slip times."

Seriously though, I saw a great writeup on the net somewhere that was actually just hilarious. It featured 'Supra Guy' and 'Skyline Guy'. Supra guy is very polished, smooth, interested in image. Skyline guy is raw edged, doesn't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks about him and his car. Just likes to win, and win he does. (Or something like that.)

It's all about your preference. You'll find a significant Skyline bias here (d'ya think?) but even on Supra forums you'll read stories about how freakin' fast Skylines are.

If you want to put together a winning GTR, be prepared to pay though.

Dan

[Nismo BKK]

I'll give the supra the benefit of having that getrag 6spd transmission of being more durable that the r32. Of course the r32 gtr is an older design car compare to the mkiv. I believe the jdm's supra were fitted with ceramic turbos since it too had hp restriction, but I do know the north american version used steel ones, thus they had 320hp opposed to the jdm's version of 280 hp. But since the jdm supra's are also 15 years old, who is to say there wont be any mechanical problems.

[tokes]

You can fix transmissions. Can't fix your 1000 hp supra from running 11's.

It's easier to throw on some slicks and some good coilovers, rather than investing 7 times as much money just in a tranny.

The JDM's were rated at 280 HP because they had to be rated at 276 HP. True, they do make a bit less power than their USDM counterparts and also have smaller injectors, but look at the cost of turbo upgrades for Supras. It's pretty cheap to go single.

[Magic Monkey]

I'll give the supra the benefit of having that getrag 6spd transmission of being more durable that the r32. Of course the r32 gtr is an older design car compare to the mkiv. I believe the jdm's supra were fitted with ceramic turbos since it too had hp restriction, but I do know the north american version used steel ones, thus they had 320hp opposed to the jdm's version of 280 hp. But since the jdm supra's are also 15 years old, who is to say there wont be any mechanical problems.

As I have always said, It may be a super car (and I love my skyline to death,) but it is still a 15 year old piece of crap when it comes to reliability. Same as an Accord or even better a 15 year old euro super car.

Supras only benefit there is getting parts locally, but still not cheap since most dealers in canada do not stock twin turbo supra parts in their inventory. too much cash and not enough cars were sold. So now you are waiting for parts ordered at you local dealer instead of through an online supplier.

As for price, My car I paid a fair bit for, over 20 for sure, but it also looks bone stock and dyno'd at 423 whp in awd. and that is all day long. So as far as choice, Supra is flashy, but for my choice, the skyline is still the sexiest looking car out there, which is why, even when she is down, I still love it, just look at it........ you want it, you want to drive it.......

Beest choice, no matter which one you choose, Don't be cheap, buy a high grade car and pay a bit more for a top notch car, or make good friends with a shop.

PS, all three versions of the RB26 have certain issues. The Pump issue is an easy fix on the R32, the R34 is a major undertaking to put in due to ignition differences.

[GTR-guy]

Fujimura Auto have an R32 with the 6spd Getrag from the BNR34. That so called transmission issue on the R32 can also be resolved!

As for reliability, you get what you pay for! And I swear, I mint, low mileage, nearly stock GTR with no accident history and with all the service records will treat you very well!

[tokes]

Fujimura Auto have an R32 with the 6spd Getrag from the BNR34. That so called transmission issue on the R32 can also be resolved!

As for reliability, you get what you pay for! And I swear, I mint, low mileage, nearly stock GTR with no accident history and with all the service records will treat you very well!

Ask Sean Morris how well the BNR34 transmission holds up. It's not a so called issue, it's a real issue, and the R34 tranny is not an instant fix.

[Nismo BKK]

About 3 years ago, I had a look at a '95 supra that was imported from the us from some shady dealership. Excluding the fact that it cost 5k more than the gtr I end up buying, had 165k miles on the frame, non-turbo and automatic, after sitting inside of it and looking at it from the outside, the overall feel wasnt there for me.

No matter which one you choose, buying a good quality jdm car is the goal. I'm sure there will be a few lemon rhd supras out there, just like there were with the gtr's.

[Skylude]

Well...as far has everybody saying to am ''cheaping'' out..The fact is that jdm supra's are about the same price if not a little more expensive than mint GTR's...I do plan on spending in the 20k region for the car...

[tokes]

Honestly, source it yourself and import it yourself, or use someone like Adam at Feast to do it for you. Local shops cut a lot of profit into cars. For 20K or maybe a bit over, you could find yourself a nice GTR with a built motor or a newer R34 motor that should give you less problems than just buying a stock R32.

[JNS Performance]

I'll give the supra the benefit of having that getrag 6spd transmission of being more durable that the r32. Of course the r32 gtr is an older design car compare to the mkiv. I believe the jdm's supra were fitted with ceramic turbos since it too had hp restriction, but I do know the north american version used steel ones, thus they had 320hp opposed to the jdm's version of 280 hp. But since the jdm supra's are also 15 years old, who is to say there wont be any mechanical problems.

Yes they use ceramic turbo's but really does that matter? Stock turbo's weather it be Steel wheel or Ceramic a Supra owner will be pulling them off anyway for a huge single swap.

Other difference is slightly larger injector for usdm model, again pointless as everyone goes for 650+

You can fix transmissions. Can't fix your 1000 hp supra from running 11's.

3.1L Titan Motorsports Supra.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xF564pyfHNU

7.9 seconds, I love the cams in this thing

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=23yTQj5SGPk&feature=related

Skyline Record Run 7.57 Seconds:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=dSTNc1Vo5Qc&feature=related

[Nismo BKK]

[QUOTE=skylinegtr20;341070]Yes they use ceramic turbo's but really does that matter? Stock turbo's weather it be Steel wheel or Ceramic a Supra owner will be pulling them off anyway for a huge single swap.

Other difference is slightly larger injector for usdm model, again pointless as everyone goes for 650+



Just a stock to stock comparision between the two ssupras and not every supra owner out there will be building for big gains. Just like with gtr owners, some are just happy with stock or light modifications. But, since the money you saved buying the jdm model opposed the usdm model can go towards modding it all out.

[Chris_RB]

I've driven both cars, and quite like them both. I like the ****-pit feel of the MK4, and I like the visibility from the Skylines. Cornering I quite like the GTR better...even my GTS-t from the supra as the ass on the supra likes to wander without much prompting whereas the skyline sticks quite hard.

I'd look for either and then buy what you find to be a good deal, and a nice car. I'm not talking about cheaping out, but just being patient to find a sweet car.

Personally, I think I will be looking for a '93 GTR next spring because I want a track car. the newer R32's have a lot of the major issues fixed, and I'll be in Japan so I want to check out as many as I can to find the "one". Which is why I want to sell my car now. Then I can also get a bike for the rest of the summer and fall.