Need new brakes

[archaeic_bloke]

hawk HPS pads
+ powerslot rotors
+ stainless braided brake lines (if you dont have them already)
+ good quality brake fluid (motul dot 5.1, RBF600, Willwood 570/600, etc.)

should run you less than $1000

Excellent choice Leaspin!!

[cozmosland]

what were the part numbers for the rotors you bought? and how much
thx

[leeaspin]

the setup you mentioned...havnt got the stainless line yet.

[derk]

what did you end up getting?

[leeaspin]

emptied my brake fluid the other day...holy moly there was so much friggin dirt and crap in it...it was so black!

Also have my brakes on the way yayy

[Skym]

Another thing is might be able to use a bigger brake master cylinder (internals are bigger diameter) from R33GTR or R34GTR. For non ABS R32 GTS Type-M Skyline I noticed you can use a 300ZX TT brake master cylinder (the same size brakes) which is said to be similar in diameter to R33GTR or R34GTR brake master cylinder internals.

When brake fluid overheats the brakes can fade. Even with my car on the street I run racespec Super Dot 4 brakefluid (600+ boiling point). I change it every 6 months or 10,000km (factory recommends every 12months which is wrong on a modified car). Changing every 3 months or 5000km is best but I find 6 months or 10,000km works on my car.

To know when brake fluid needs changing, have to feel via brake pedal. If it feels softer under foot and braking fades a bit, then brake fluid needs changing.

[archaeic_bloke]

perfect question Leespin... and fair too!

Oem brake fluid is fine for roads... but on the track where you alternate between intense acceleration and intense braking in short time periods, the brake fluid is going to got REALLY hot, really quick.

Oem fluid can heat up so much that it will literrally boil, it can leak, cause damage etc and worst of all, it doesn't work as good when it boils and can really fail.

I ran Motul RBF660 high temp brake fluid on a trackday last year, had ZERO issues with my brakes because of it...

things that will make a difference to the oem brake setup:

Stainless braided lines, good pads, good discs, high temp fluid and even a brake master cylinder stopper.

oh yah, as mentioned before, good tires.

[leeaspin]

Thanks for all the info guys....I am not looking into buying a big brake setup because i dont do any track because there pretty much isnt one where I live lol. I am going to utalise the gtrs OEM discs and probly just going to get a better set of pads. Not really sold on a higher end brake fluid. Whats the advantage of having a more expensive brake fluid? Whats so different between say the nissan brake fluid compared to a motul fluid?

[DreadedFist]

When it comes to street cars that just see the occasional fun road, good pads and fluid are all you really need imo. To truly take advantage of a big brake setup, you'll need tires to match. I lol when I see guys with $4,000 big brake kits and cheap tires. Much like trying to put the power down when accelerating, your tires will determine your ability to stop, too.

[Daemon2]

Wilwood

I am a wilwood brake dealer, if you give me an idea of what you would like I will work something out for you.
I am also willing to do group buys.
Daemoncustomauto.com

[support@feastauto]

In the end its coming down to a high quality rotor and high temp pads. Suggest you try and maximize the OEM set up before making the plunge into big brake kits.

And also, be very careful with all these cheap two piece rotors on the market. Many holding very poorly castings and dont like the heat. More good than bad in the end.

[gtrjon]

go to lordco and ask for z33 brakes if i am correct?

[cozmosland]

anyone have a part number and price of the powerslots for an r33 gts? same rotors as r32 gtr are they not?

[archaeic_bloke]

yea, Skym ^^^( Above) is right too, BBK's are a bit of a pain in the ass...

From first hand experience the stock caliper and disk size is more then enough for trackdays all year. like i said, take that budget and just get good components, you'll be much happier in the end.

[leeaspin]

hey man,

a couple points to make, a few people here have made the switch to the AMS big brake kit but weren't all that impressed with results.
on a recent trackday last year, we had 9 skylines going around a track and the brake set up that seemed to out perform all others the best, is the OEM gtr brakes!

they're good brakes, people always under estimate them. moving to a bigger brake kit adds a lot more weight to the unsprung system, and rotating mass too for bigger disks, and as such may actually result is worse braking performance, which is what we saw on the track last year.

100% my recommendation would be to get your oem calipers some new seals, clean them out. and spend that money on 4 good GTR disks and a set of really high end brake pads, also you could upgrade to stainless braided lines (which will improve brake feel), and a really good high end brake fluid like RBF660 Motul, lastly a brake master cylinder stopper too. you'll be much happier with the performance, future servicing will be easier and more cost effective, you won't have brake bias issues (which you might on a BBK), and honestly, like I said before the oem gtr brake system is really phenomenal on the track, it works perfect.

just my 2 cents.

My uncle told me to use the stock setup aswell with a good set of pads...I thought he was on glue. Thanks for the words of advice!