I need some oppinions!!

[skylinelife]

So basically i have a r32 gtst right now that i just did a full complete on the body did the suspention tires exc and am now deciding on if i should swap in a rb25 with a fmic power fc fuel mods boost controler and all that fun stuff... oor just sell it and buy a gtr? i mean im a ticketed body/painter so its not a big deal that i did that stuff but every time i look at gtrs for sale i say i might as well do the 25 swap.. and when im about to buy the engine i say screw this ill just get a gtr. Soooo what do you guys think..

my power goals are say around 350 to 400 wheel and its my daily driver.

thanks

[caliber676]

The gtr will make the power you want quite easily, and the rb25 with need a bit more money thrown at it. If you got a good condition car right now I'd say you'd save yourself a lot more headaches than getting a new car and dealing with all its problems

[MKIV]

I bought my Gtst for $4000... about $10k later I've got a very reliable and capable RB25 powered 400ish hp daily driver.

It's all preference. If you're set on a gtr then get a gtr.

[RixR32]

Pretty much exactly what I did. Lol.
Someone got a NICE gtst when I was done.....but my goal all along was a GTR, for it's history, lineage, and the fact it holds it's own with cars 20 years newer.....
So, I'd say get the GTR. Look for a MECHANICALLY sound example seeing as you can fix body issues easily.
Wish I could....thats all thats wrong with mine. Damn shipping containers...


Rick

[Daryl @ RightDrive]

If you end up going for a GT-R, do yourself a favour and do not buy the cheapest one you can find.
A problematic GT-R will cost you a fortune to get running properly. A good, clean example may cost you more to purchase, but will save you a lot of money, and headaches in the long run.

[NismoS-tune]

+1 to daryl's comment.

I spent $15k on a gtr 4 years ago and have had problem after problem. I should has bought a more expensive one

[JZ]

$15K is decent coin for a BNR32! My advice is to find the best condition GTR you can find.

[Skym]

The whole point of the 4wd GTR was being able to use the hp the engine makes, as mentioned by the Gibson raceteam -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=qkKyQPao9DU&NR=1

Also the other benefits of 4wd were keeping up the same pace in wet weather that you can in the dry and when tyres were worn they didn't need to pit, like they did with rwd GTS-R in Group-A.

A R32 GTS-T with RB20DET can catchup and pass a boosted up stock R32 GTR (both cars are limited to stock engines, stock turbo's) -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgD5j52ltFA

Stock for stock and boosted up the R32 GTS-T is better with handling, response. But R32 GTR is better on the straight's once you have the extra hp, as shown in this videoclip with 300-330hp R32 GTS-T vs 650hp R32 GTR -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc_3Zb4zbU4

They both have their + and -. It just depends on what you are after, what you are using car for.

RB25DET is not too different to RB26DETT and are adding more weight to car with RB25DET gearbox (+30kg or so), RB25DET engine. That requires making sure brakes are up to the task, suspension is setup to suit the extra weight in front of car, driveshaft's can handle the torque (use R32 GTR driveshaft's, diffhead, subframe, rear suspension, etc).

It's alot easier to start with a R33 25T or R32 GTR if want more hp than 400hp at engine. You could buy a crashed R32 GTR and swap parts to current car if want a sleeper (wolf in sheeps clothing).

[GTR-Garage]

In terms of daily driven reliability tuning a GTR to reach 400PS is fairly easy. If what you really want is a GTR then you may find yourself regretting having invested a good deal of money into a GTS-T to make the kind of power a GTR can make with less effort.

I agree wholeheartedly with RightDrive. I was offered an R32 GTR a few weeks ago for 300,000 JPY. However, it had been to hell and back and would have cost a fortune to get into a respectable state.

[RixR32]

I don't find the price point has AS much to do with it anymore.
It's KNOWING what to look at, look for, and doing reasearch on the platform FIRST.

I've seen avg GTR's with a higher asking price than really nice ones, just due to the different reasons people sell these now.
aka- someone buys a nice GTR then can't find insurance so unloads it quick as possible.....
Good deals are out there....

And yes, besides the basics, 400hp is just a set of steelie turbos, injectors, and a good tune away...

Rick

[Daryl @ RightDrive]

Agreed Rick, I was referring to cars coming from Japan though. The prices for Canadian are up and down like crazy, because of the issues of ownership, and the relatively younger demographic that the car attracts.
To be honest, there are a lot of beat up BNR32s in Canada, so for me the general rule would be to stay away from anything too cheap if there are no circumstances such as insurance etc. That's not to say there are not good deals out there though.

To the OP, regardless of whether you import a GT-R, or buy one already landed, make sure you check the car fully first. If you are buying it in Canada find out WHY the owner is selling it, and what the history of the car is. Like Rick said, price doesn't necessarily indicate whether it's a good buy or not, but either way be cautious and fully check it out first. That step is essential.
And just to refer to someone else's recent experience, make sure the seller actually has his/her name on the ownership!

Just to add my experience, I bought my BNR32 in 2005 for 1.3million yen (about $14,000) in Japan. I shopped around a lot for it, and saw some cheaper ones that were a bit rough, and some more expensive ones that were upgraded already. I settled on one that was mildly modded (wheels, suspension, roll cage, boost controller, boost meter), because I trusted the dealer and the mechanic who inspected it.
Since I've owned it I've maintained it religiously (oil, fluid, filter changes, timing belt service etc.).
I've had to fix the following problems, outside of regular maintenance:
1) fuel injector seals - one started leaking
2) intake manifold gasket - started leaking a bit
3) radiator - just died and started dumping coolant one day last summer
4) front inner ball joint - common issue, replaced them all while I was at it
5) front upper link - left side was banging over bumps

In 7 years I think those are the only things I've ever had to fix, and I attribute it to smart shopping and not being blinded by cheap prices.

Whether you do the RB25 or go with a GT-R, good luck with the route you choose!!

[Collector1313]

As Daryl mentioned the BNR32 does bounce around in price when in Canada for sale, but cost does reflect condition... usually
I bought a GTS years ago for the younger appeal reason as well as being interested in cars, tuning, mods as a hobby
But before long realized the GTS was not the car i would want in the end if i sunk 10 k into it ...... 10 k into a BNR32 would be a whole different end result and the one i was aiming for personally

So I sold the GTS and looked, searched, did countless internet research hrs on exactly the do's and the do nots of buying a BNR32, then comes finding one, and as mentioned avoiding a ravaged beat one .... for obvius reasons, if the price is "too low" in your own opinion and dont feel its right ... walk away
If your ready to dump your pockets out im sure u can find a mint unit fast, but dont jump on the first one and always have a few to compare with at least. Gives you an overall insight to condition at kms etc,
Mods are good to get if your modding it anyways, can save lots of time and money,
but again how reliable is the person the car is coming from etc history of car kms, engine overhaul .....


when it comes to buying a used car its tough, when it comes to buying a used sports car with super car capabilities ...tougher

my advise, read all and be patient in your choice

And lastly, as mentioned already, what is the "end goal" of building/buying the car
just my personal experience

Good luck with getting a new BNR32 or building !!

[Daryl @ RightDrive]

dont jump on the first one and always have a few to compare with at least. Gives you an overall insight to condition at kms etc,

Very good piece of advice here ^^

[skylinelife]

thanks alot for all your guys input! i know i was young (like 18) when i got this gts and suck about 6 k into it so i would be loosing like 5 grand at least at this point selling it. as you guys said the bnr is just easier to make the power and its just a one of kind legend. soo i think im gona hang on to mine until i find a really good one. i was looking at this one. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...562422976.html its bone stock even the exhaust and i would just get some tires rims, spray it dark green and get coils to start. the owner is a mechanic at the local import specialist shop so i trust the car is that aspect.