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    This a quick DIY for those of you that may have thought this was possible without taking apart the whole front of the engine. There may have been a thread about this in the past but I couldn't find one.

    I have had these GReddy cam gears for about 2 years now and was waiting to do the whole works with the Kevlar belt and new idler and tensioner that I have also had for about 2 years. That requires about a days worth of time to take everything apart and put it all back together again. I don't have that kind of time these days, nor shop space to do it in, wifey has the garage right now.

    As I was doing all the pre-driving seasonal tidbits to put some insurance on the car and start driving it again I really started to look at the cam gears and wondered if I could just slip the stockers off and slip the GReddy's on in their place. Short answer is hells yea. The only big caveat is that you must have some slack in the timing belt. If you have a fresh belt that's a little tight I don't think this will work, my belt is a little old-ish and I can pull the belt up between the gears and create some slack.

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    Note the CAS^^^^


















    Now, sharp eyed readers will notice that the exhaust cam appears to be advanced a bit, both by the timing hash mark and the fact that the CAS in the first photo is cranked all the way over to one side of it's adjustment. The cams are 8.9mm lift so I think they are old HKS 260 sticks. I suspect that the CAS driver in the cam wasn't put in there "straight up" because of the skewed position of the CAS. I played around with the cam timing both with the gear and skipping the belt a tooth and the exhaust is both advanced about 1 deg and the CAS is quite a bit out. At least I can work around it.

    I will adjust the intake cam first to get the most cranking compression then retard the exhaust until it starts to fall again. The last move will be to advance the ex cam back to the point of highest cranking compression. That is a good starting point for tuning and should give me the most off boost torque and quickest spool.

    As far as time? It actually took me 10 min longer to type this up than it took to do the whole job. Intake was about 5 min. and the exhaust was about 15 min.



    Hope this helps someone who wondered if it's possible to do it this way....



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    Good write up Jon. Thanks!
    I've been toying with the idea of getting adjustable cam gears but questioned how beneficial it is. I'd be curious to see a before/after dyno sheet.

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    • #3
      I like.

      Depending on how camgears are set, better boost response (peak boost is 300-400rpm earlier), more hp throughout powerband with stock cams.

      This is on a RB20DET with stock cams and can see the what adjusting the exhaust cam does and what adjusting the intake cam does on power curve (affect's torque, power curves, but only power curve is shown) -

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      • #4
        I edited the write up to say I have some smallish after market cams. Even with stock cams though you can affect the power curve a fair bit. As soon as you start changing the entire system (turbos, exhaust, intake, PCM) you essentially screw up the factory cam settings. All of the harmonics, system pressures and locations of resistances have all been changed. The factory cams made the best of the stock system.

        That dyno plot you posted is perfect Skym, thanks. You can really see how the intake valve closing point is pretty much god when it comes to building compression and maximizing power overall. The exhaust cam position affects power as well but no where near as much as the intake. Considering how cheap these can be, I got these off a guy for $150, it's MUCH cheaper to tweek the valve train than changing cams.

        I'll let you guys know what my butt dyno tells me...lol.



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        • #5
          You're welcome. Also skimming head, block (engine rebuild) can retard camtiming if use stock settings.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Skym View Post
            You're welcome. Also skimming head, block (engine rebuild) can retard camtiming if use stock settings.
            I just did a major edit to my initial write up, I had a slight case of head in bum...lol. As it turns out the cam was advanced about 1 deg cam and 2 deg crank in the "straight up" position. The CAS being way out of whack might just be the driver wasn't installed quite right from the manufacturer. I played around with things for about 2 hours this afternoon and have come up with that theory. With the lobe separation tightened up she sounded angry, didn't want to rev worth a poo though....lol. I'll update again after I have had a chance to dial things in further.

            If you skim the block and head, the cam timing gets retarded, put in a thick head gasket and the opposite happens. Maybe my engine has been apart, I really don't know.


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            • #7
              How to degree cams properly is mentioned here -

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