So I bought a lemon

[Kras]

Yea you really should post the name of this place, I am in the market for a GTR right now and I'd like to know.

[supremeskyline]

Is it quality cars calgary ? thats the only place i can think that does financing.

[Heyst]

Alright,
I got the car back tonight. Went and picked it up. Still having the same symptoms. The tank is rusted on the inside and apparently the specialist cleaned out the tank "rly good".. obviously you can't clean rust, you have to replace rusted metal, which means a replacement tank. If anyone has owned a honda they sure as hell know that.

I start to discuss what has been done to improve my situation.

- Downpipe has been replaced
- exhaust has been replaced
- I was given skyline wheels in offer to exchange my s14/r33 wheels. three had 95% tread but all four were slashed. ok. freebie I suppose

- I was told the fuel pump was replaced, the old one was "rusted". well of coarse, its been sitting in a tank with rust floating in it. Now Im out a GTR fuel pump that was actually a loner.

- The new 240sx fuel pump I bought is missing. Its not in my trunk where I left it. I put the original GTS-T pump AND the 240sx pump both in the new pumps box in my trunk... all thats there is the shitty original.

so now both the GTR fuel pump, and the 240 pump are missing. I asked and asked about it. "seriously though, where are both my pumps?"

used car dealerships reply "oh you cannot use those. they were rusted."

me: "ok, but can I at least have my pumps back?"

- "you cannot use them"

Im talking to brick ******* walls.

after that he added "my mechanic, he changed your plugs"

:-?
me: "I just spent 70+$ on brand new NGK's that are the RECOMMENDED PLUGS for my car! I even bought a gapping tool so I wouldn't mess anything up. whats in my car now? do you even know the gap? the heat range?"

- "we put in autolites, they're good. pre gapped, I dont know the heat range"

me: "Ok I want my plugs back and I want them today"

- "don't be so cheap man"

guy that works there comes out of the garage and hands me 6 autolite boxes. I can't believe I didn't look inside the box when I was there. Still havn't. If these aren't my plugs Im at the end of my rope. something as simple as PLUGS are aggravating me but I keep telling him, thanks for the help. Im Nova Scotian so being polite is what I do.

That was the last straw. I drove myself down there in the loner car they lent me, and I had to drive back. Obviously I couldn't get my money back right there, how would I get home?



I am going to speak to a police officer who works in Calgary and see what exactly I can do. I am obviously returning the car.
Tools, don't care. shop supplies, don't care.

parts and labour I want to be reimbursed for.
Im not taking this s*** any more. I am going with you guys on this one.


Quality Cars Calgary

[deliberate32]

Harsh man, i'm sorry to hear about this fiasco...


Sounds like you're being jerked around...I'd maybe seek legal advice on getting your funds, refunded, and any extra costs involved with their run around.

[supremeskyline]

quality cars is a **** show... they have ****** a few people just the same i have talked to. some quality cars there hey ?:sick2:

[Heyst]

quality cars is a **** show... they have ****** a few people just the same i have talked to. some quality cars there hey ?:sick2:

Hopefully I'll find out tomorrow what exactly can be done.

I tried biting my lip at them because well, I liked the car. They originally sold the one I was supposed to pick up and gave me this pos. :hit_head:

in case anyone is interested I'll keep you posted.

[Heyst]

actually, I wouldn't mind speaking with them to hear their stories. You wouldn't remember who they are?



also:

Was the car sold as is? If this car was less than $4k, that would explain the issues your finding, however, I believe there is a law where if a used vehicle breaks down within a short period of time (or 200km?). I don't know for sure. If you can't get this covered by the company, I hope the cost of the car was low to make up for all the repairs. I'd go after the OOP inspector for passing it if it shouldn't have.

found this:

http://www.amvic.org/buying_as_is.htm

The term “as-is” is often inserted into a bill of sale to protect an automotive business selling a used vehicle against claims made respecting the condition of the vehicle. A person buying a vehicle in an “as-is” condition is led to believe they are waiving any claims they may have in the event the vehicle being purchased is defective. The use of such a provision does not relieve an automotive business from its obligations to consumers under the Fair Trading Act. An automotive business must at all times take care to ensure that it does not commit an unfair practice in the course of selling a used vehicle, whether in an “as-is” condition or not.

it can be heard before the Provincial Court of Alberta, Civil Division. This level of court can only award damages for losses suffered.

- Does this mean labour and parts?

I could quote the whole damn page, but seriously when I confronted him about everything he fessed up. he knew about the exhaust but didn't tell me (rotted off right behind the rear pass side tire behind the bumper)

[Dragon Humper]

They should change their name to "Turds R Us":hit_head: .



Jon.

[BlackAura]

The good news:

Regarding the parts, other than a few parts which are kept to be rebuilt (i.e. alternators, and a few other items that can be rebuilt safely), I believe that shops are required by law to give you back any and all parts that are removed from your vehicle, and replaced.

They are also required to notify you if any of the parts which are being removed will be kept to be rebuilt, and offer them for you to keep for an additional cost (well, I guess generally the replacement part is discounted if you exchange the old part....if you don't exchange the old part, you pay full price for the replacement part).

So it's a good thing you argued to get those spark plugs back......and it sounds to me like they should have given you the fuel pump back as well.

This is required by law so you can inspect the items to determine if replacement of them was correct, and the old parts had actually failed.


The bad news:

As for the parts left in your car, i.e. the fuel pumps, I'm not sure what you can do....generally when I bring my vehicle in to a shop I never leave anything in the car.....however if you had pre-arranged to have the 240sx fuel pump installed (is that possible with a GTS? maybe), then you can probably take some sort of action, as it should be listed under the "work approved to be completed by the vehicle owner" section, or whatever that section would be called (which you generally sign off on before they do _anything_ to your car).

I'm not sure if one of these work orders needs to be signed off on if the work is covered under warranty (or whatever they're calling it since the car was recently purchased), but I don't see why it wouldn't be done...that way they keep track of everything that's done to the car........unfortunately it doesn't sound like the shop is very reputable, so you might be SOL on the pumps, if there were no records.

[Heyst]

The good news:

Regarding the parts, other than a few parts which are kept to be rebuilt (i.e. alternators, and a few other items that can be rebuilt safely), I believe that shops are required by law to give you back any and all parts that are removed from your vehicle, and replaced.

They are also required to notify you if any of the parts which are being removed will be kept to be rebuilt, and offer them for you to keep for an additional cost (well, I guess generally the replacement part is discounted if you exchange the old part....if you don't exchange the old part, you pay full price for the replacement part).

So it's a good thing you argued to get those spark plugs back......and it sounds to me like they should have given you the fuel pump back as well.

This is required by law so you can inspect the items to determine if replacement of them was correct, and the old parts had actually failed.


The bad news:

As for the parts left in your car, i.e. the fuel pumps, I'm not sure what you can do....generally when I bring my vehicle in to a shop I never leave anything in the car.....however if you had pre-arranged to have the 240sx fuel pump installed (is that possible with a GTS? maybe), then you can probably take some sort of action, as it should be listed under the "work approved to be completed by the vehicle owner" section, or whatever that section would be called (which you generally sign off on before they do _anything_ to your car).

I'm not sure if one of these work orders needs to be signed off on if the work is covered under warranty (or whatever they're calling it since the car was recently purchased), but I don't see why it wouldn't be done...that way they keep track of everything that's done to the car........unfortunately it doesn't sound like the shop is very reputable, so you might be SOL on the pumps, if there were no records.

Before I bought the Carter fuel pump I had sent QCC an email regarding it and they replied they would pay half. Still haven't. I kept my receipt for it as well as the email.

I sent him another email today and explained that I am giving him a one time non-negotiable deal with two options.
A.) Give me my money back, and reimburse me for the labour alone. I am going to go ahead with a complaint/ o.p.p investigation and civl court for the labour and the parts otherwise.

B.) Keep my money, and add the cost of the parts and labour into a payment for a better, working skyline. He would have benefited this way.

replied with
"wow, thats a big email. Take your money and goodbye"

we'll see

[Kras]

Well so much for buying from these guys, they sound shady as hell. Why can't there be any respectable JDM car retailers in Calgary? Lol