R36 GT-R due by 2013

[QuietChaos]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/04/report-next-gen-nissan-gt-r-in-the-works-for-2013/

"Hot on the heels of reports, brought to you by British car site PistonHeads upon their visit to the Nissan's Ring-side test facility, of updates planned for the current R35-generation Nissan GT-R comes another report detailing the Japanese automaker's plans for the next-generation R36 model.

With competitors lining up to challenge the current GT-R's performance benchmark, Nissan's senior veep for global product planning, Andy Palmer, confirmed that plans are underway to succeed Godzilla with a next-generation model. The R36 will, according to the report, carry over the current model's twin-turbo V6, but with enough modifications to keep it ahead of the pack. The new GT-R is expected to hit the road by 2013 at the latest. Beyond that, Palmer didn't disclose many details, except to say that Nissan is committed to the GT-R program and won't be letting the Porsche 911 GT2 alone without a fight."


First order of business: lighten that mofo.

[Oakville]

hey Steve, looks like Nissan liked your drawing! lolol

[Wolfattak]

hey Steve, looks like Nissan liked your drawing! lolol

that was the first thing i thought of when i read r36 GTR

[JZ]

The easiest thing to do if they plan to increase performance with the same engne (aside from internal strengthening and upping the boost) is to get rid of some of that weight!

I know the mission statement of the GTR is different from that of the 911 GT3 RS, but come on, do you really need all that ICE in there?

[M13]

6 speed option would make this car.

[beacher1B0]

How about Nissan set the bar way high up and make the car tuner and aftermarket part friendly? I know Nismo would get hurt but at least they could debut parts before anyone else.
Does Nissan even have Nismo performance parts for the R35?
Oh, as M13 stated, 6 speed is a must(a real shifter). And as every one knows it needs to loose weight. How about making a Low option GTR, kinda like a EVO MR.

[Z-Tuned]

The new GT-R is expected to hit the road by 2013 at the latest. Beyond that, Palmer didn't disclose many details, except to say that Nissan is committed to the GT-R program and won't be letting the Porsche 911 GT2 alone without a fight."[/I]

I think the R34 debuts in Canada around the same time.

[QuietChaos]

How about Nissan set the bar way high up and make the car tuner and aftermarket part friendly? I know Nismo would get hurt but at least they could debut parts before anyone else.
Does Nissan even have Nismo performance parts for the R35?
Oh, as M13 stated, 6 speed is a must(a real shifter). And as every one knows it needs to loose weight. How about making a Low option GTR, kinda like a EVO MR.

Green: Yes. There's a club sport pack or something along those lines.

Pink: Spec V.

[Muss]

hey Steve, looks like Nissan liked your drawing! lolol

I <3 Oakville.

[Oakville]

I <3 Oakville.

haha

[doublejceballos]

First order of business: lighten that mofo.

Probably a slim chance of that happening as they purposely made it heavy.
order of business:
drivability
making sure tires were used effectively aka make it heavy
opted for weight over light/spoiler to make it good in all conditions at all speeds
HP to weight ratio were thought out well ahead of time

[QuietChaos]

Probably a slim chance of that happening as they purposely made it heavy.
order of business:
drivability
making sure tires were used effectively aka make it heavy
opted for weight over light/spoiler to make it good in all conditions at all speeds
HP to weight ratio were thought out well ahead of time

I wouldn't say they "purposely" made it heavy. I would guess that when they were developing the car, they considered all aspects of the car and knew that it wouldn't be a lightweight. Of course, they would do their best to trim the fat here and there. There has to be a suitable compromise between daily drivability and performance.

Have you seen a side-by-side pic of the R35 with previous generation GT-R's? The R35 dwarfs the R34 and makes the R33 look like a goldfish. Who's the whale now?

I mean, who needs usable rear seats in a sports car anyway..

[doublejceballos]

I wouldn't say they "purposely" made it heavy. I would guess that when they were developing the car, they considered all aspects of the car and knew that it wouldn't be a lightweight. Of course, they would do their best to trim the fat here and there. There has to be a suitable compromise between daily drivability and performance.

Have you seen a side-by-side pic of the R35 with previous generation GT-R's? The R35 dwarfs the R34 and makes the R33 look like a goldfish. Who's the whale now?

I mean, who needs usable rear seats in a sports car anyway..

According to the designer himself the math was done well ahead of time as to how much it needed to way.

[canadianjoker]

have a look, posted it in the media section but it didnt get many veiws.

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From the designer drawing board itself. Not all aftermarket like 600hp stripped GTR(lighter) can do a better time than the stock GTR in the nurburgring. That wt has a purpose. A 600hp GTR will be faster in straight line but in Nur time might be different. It is a better package car. If you want a dragster make it 800hp good for straight line but not for Q day use.

NISSAN GT-R: KAZUTOSHI MIZUNO INTERVIEW
Part I of PH's exclusive video interview with the Nissan GT-R program chief

Last month PistonHeads was invited to visit Nissan's Nurburgring Technical Centre for an exclusive interview with the 'father of the GT-R', the car's program manager and chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno.

PH Editor Chris-R posed questions based on suggestions from the PH forums, and we captured Mizuno san's answers on camera. Check out the film clips below, for some fascinating insights into the mind of this famously single-minded chief engineer, and his philosophy about the GT-R project.

The fount of all GT-R knowledge very kindly answered all our questions in English, making frequent use of the office whiteboard to illustrate various points.

Without blowing the PH trumpet too loudly, we're forced to say that GT-R 'geekery' doesn't get much better than this. So pay attention class, and take it away Mizuno san..

Q1) For such a high performance machine, the GT-R is a big car and heavy one. Tell us why that is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nGiZKQmODA&feature=player_embedded

Q2) So what is the best way to reduce weight from the R35 to make it perform better?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1izuj3ku8k&feature=player_embedded

Q3) In your previous answer, you seemed to be telling us the parameters of 1700kgs weight and 485hp were set from the beginning of the project, is that correct

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXtOYrL67Fo&feature=player_embedded

Q4) Why did you opt for a V6 engine, instead of an engine with more cylinders?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf8rADuMcLM&feature=player_embedded

Q5) What about the transaxle - some competitors have seven or eight speeds, so why does the GT-R have only six?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc5wIKGnC0k&feature=player_embedded

Q6) The R34 had the HICAS rear wheel steering system. Why didn't that make it onto the latest GT-R?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gil9Utvq2GM&feature=player_embedded

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[QuietChaos]

There's no arguing that more weight is better. For what the GT-R is, they probably just couldn't lower it further, or had this weight in mind to create a balanced road/track car or something. Whatever their reasoning. Sure, there may be a few reasons or advantages to a higher weight, but the argument for lower weight trumps all.

What would be interesting for me is to have Mr. Mizuno sit down with the late Colin Chapman for a conversation.