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Legal: Do I have some sort of case here?
Ready for another one of my lengthy threads? lol.
Ok so here's the deal: As some of you may have noticed, I'm selling my GTR for something I can insure/maintain for cheaper for at least the fall/winter months. I've had some interest but only one person has really come seen the car. Here's the story...
Tuesday Sept 1st I receive a PM on here regarding my car. They leave their number and I immediately get in contact through texting. They live in the area and offered me $10,500 for my car at the time I was asking $11,000. I said that's fine, and we arranged a meet-up for the next day I believe it was.
So Wednesday Sept 2nd, I am in the parking lot and they (to currently protect the identities, they will be Mr. P and Ms. A henceforth) show up soon after. They look the car over, I explain everything it has, what it needs, etc like the nice, honest seller I try to be, and Mr. P explains that he will be making this a project car for his wife Ms. A here. They decide to buy it, we depart and communicate that we'll finalize the sale soon.
Thursday Sept 3rd after work, I take the car to Mr. P's shop so he can look it over himself and write up a safety certificate. No issues whatsoever so I leave for home. We decide to meet up Friday the 4th at 9am at the MTO in Cambridge. The plan was to meet up, go to the bank down the street, transfer the money over to me, go back to the MTO and register the car in their name and that sale is done. On my end, right after the sale, my friend would drive me to Mississauga to pick up the Subaru I decided on, register it etc and drive it to work in Kitchener by 1pm. I had set up and paid for insurance on this new Subaru and had everything 100% ready in my power.
Friday Sept 4th I head out to the MTO and wait for my friend to show up. 9am rolls by so I text Ms. A and ask where she is. She said she'll now be there after 10am because she had to take her kids to her mom's or school or something... I say that's fine because she said this might happen.
10am rolls around, still no show, so I text again. No response for a bit, but after a while I get a text saying she's setting up the insurance and signing the papers because it didn't go through the last day since they had to go through another company and wait for a quote (you know the RHD hassles lol). I say alright and my friend and I wait some more. During this time, the guy with the Subaru in Mississauga is emailing/calling me asking if I've left yet, as I said I'll be there for 11ish to make the deal. I try to keep him updated throughout.
From what I understand, Mr. P is at work and Ms. A is doing all of this herself, as it will be in her name anyway. They were also getting the keys to their new house this day also at 7pm and they wanted the car beforehand.
I get extremely vague texts of what is going on after about an hour and a half of zero communication. I'm confused as hell but I keep waiting while my friend is getting impatient and Mr. K waiting in Mississauga is also.
Noon comes up and I still don't know what is going on. I've made phone calls but Ms. A does NOT pick up her cell. She says she's signing papers and will be there soon, so I continue to wait. More time goes on and I forget the reason but I said I can drop off the car at her new house if that helps her situation if I can just get the money so I can go get my new car. More nothing... and at 1pm I decide to call it quits, apologize to my friend for coming all the way here to sit for FOUR HOURS for no reason. I had to start work at 1:30pm so that's why I left.
About 5 minutes after I leave, she says she's on her way with her friend with the money. I said I can't meet there as I have to go to work now in Kitchener (where she is from at the time... they were getting the new house in Cambridge that night), so she can just meet me there. She sends some nasty texts having to do with "well I'm in Cambridge now so why should I go there now" sort of thing... Women are always right, right?
Anyway, I keep texting her while I'm at work, and she says that she'll bring a deposit to my work at around 7pm that is enough that I can pick up the Subaru, and we'll meet Saturday the 5th at 9am again to finalize the deal. That works for me so I wait... and wait... and wait... Work was busy as hell so I was there well after closing. I get a text around 10:45 saying she's "still at work"... so she's at work now? She works at a hospital and from what I understand, they have extremely erratic on-call etc hours so that's fine as long as they meet me in the morning this time...
I update Mr. K, my seller in Mississauga of the plans, and he says it's ok but he's got stuff to do so I'd really have to be there around 11am this time. My friend agrees once again to meet up and wait with me and drive me to Mississauga after my car is sold.
It's Saturday Sept 5th now, and I am at the MTO at 9am yet again, waiting. My friend tells me he's running late and will be there around 10am. I say that's fine, and if they don't show up, we'll go drop a deposit off on the car anyway to secure my buying position.
9:30am I am sitting in the MTO with a phonebook, trying to decipher the last name of Ms. A from her voicemail (when they say their name and then it says they're unavailable; her mailbox was full so I couldn't leave a message and she wasn't picking up her phone again otherwise) so I could call her house. I remember they changed houses, so my search was pointless anyway. I call Mr. P's work, and they're not open so I couldn't get any info from there either. I leave an imperative PM on Mr. P's account on here (the only time he's logged on, to this day, was when I got the PM). They never showed up so a bit after 10am we head to Toronto to look at a BMW for him and drop off the deposit on the Subaru.
Mr. K and I make a receipt of $500 for a deposit, and just for formalities, we fill out the form stating that if this deal doesn't go through in 14 days, I lose priority and if the car sells, I lose $325 of the deposit to pay for what I told him to put on the car (needed tires and safety certificate). I knew this deal would easily go through because they have insurance on my car etc so I was expecting early in the week to have my car sold and pay off Mr. K and take the car.
Sunday, Monday come and go and I've still heard NOTHING from either Mr. P or Ms. A. I called Mr. P's shop Monday since they were open now, but it was his day off, they didn't have his new house number, so I just left a message asking for Mr. P to call me back Tuesday morning then.
Tuesday morning now and I haven't gotten a call by the time I finished school at 1pm, so I call back and I finally get to talk to Mr. P! I express my concern about no one getting back to me but I understand it must've been a hectic weekend with the new house and moving and all, so I just want to make sure they're still buying the car and he says they are, but his wife Ms. A is supposed to be taking care of this so I should talk to her again.
I get a hold of Ms. A via text finally on Wednesday Sept 9th (unconfirmed until I can double check). She says she'll drop off the deposit that night while I'm at work in Kitchener again. I make her promise and she said she'll be there until she "runs into a bathtub" (stupid joke.. something to do with she hit a sink with her van wtf?? I'm scared to sell my GTR to this person..). Anyway, I'm waiting at work, and she doesn't show up, so she CALLS (gasp!) me and says that she's just going to bring me the full amount because these certified cheques cost money and she'd might as well just do it once. She says that she's going to drop her kid off at school at 9:30am on Thursday Sept 10th, as it's right down the street from my college. I say I can meet then because I have no class between 9am-10am, and I'll just get my friend to drive me down to pick up the Subaru that day. Sounds cool. I'm excited.
Thursday Sept 10th.
I finish class and I go to the Tim Horton's across from my college where we're supposed to meet. 9:30am on my watch, so I make a text. She says her mom is taking the kids to school now, and she's waiting for her friend to drive her. It's her friend's only day off, so she wanted to sleep in a bit. Ok that's understandable.. So I agree to meet at 10am and I'd be skipping class, but I was willing to make the sacrifice..
10am goes by... she says her friend is still getting ready... I say ok.. she tells me she's on Street X which is close to my school, so I drive there as I thought it'd be easier for her.
This is where the real fun starts.
I'm waiting at the new agreed-upon meeting place at the gas station near the street. She says she'll be there in 10 minutes.
10 minutes go by and she's not there. Apparently her friend is now dying her hair. WTF. I HATE WOMEN.
I drive onto the actual street and park on the edge of a school's parking lot and try calling her. She picks up after some effort on my part, and I say "I'm on the street you said your friend is on. Can I get the house number so I can come over, pick up the cheque, sign over the ownership and leave the car with you?" She says no. She's waiting for her friend to drive her.
I really don't know what the hell is going on, yet again, like on Friday morning, but I persist.
~10:30am
Something along the lines of she's at her friend's house, waiting for her other friend who is dying her hair somewhere on the other side of Cambridge to come with the van that has the car seats for her babies. She said she can't take the car because she doesn't have baby seats and safety is her first concern. I think that's the only understandable point she made this whole time.
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Ok so here's the deal: As some of you may have noticed, I'm selling my GTR for something I can insure/maintain for cheaper for at least the fall/winter months. I've had some interest but only one person has really come seen the car. Here's the story...
Tuesday Sept 1st I receive a PM on here regarding my car. They leave their number and I immediately get in contact through texting. They live in the area and offered me $10,500 for my car at the time I was asking $11,000. I said that's fine, and we arranged a meet-up for the next day I believe it was.
So Wednesday Sept 2nd, I am in the parking lot and they (to currently protect the identities, they will be Mr. P and Ms. A henceforth) show up soon after. They look the car over, I explain everything it has, what it needs, etc like the nice, honest seller I try to be, and Mr. P explains that he will be making this a project car for his wife Ms. A here. They decide to buy it, we depart and communicate that we'll finalize the sale soon.
Thursday Sept 3rd after work, I take the car to Mr. P's shop so he can look it over himself and write up a safety certificate. No issues whatsoever so I leave for home. We decide to meet up Friday the 4th at 9am at the MTO in Cambridge. The plan was to meet up, go to the bank down the street, transfer the money over to me, go back to the MTO and register the car in their name and that sale is done. On my end, right after the sale, my friend would drive me to Mississauga to pick up the Subaru I decided on, register it etc and drive it to work in Kitchener by 1pm. I had set up and paid for insurance on this new Subaru and had everything 100% ready in my power.
Friday Sept 4th I head out to the MTO and wait for my friend to show up. 9am rolls by so I text Ms. A and ask where she is. She said she'll now be there after 10am because she had to take her kids to her mom's or school or something... I say that's fine because she said this might happen.
10am rolls around, still no show, so I text again. No response for a bit, but after a while I get a text saying she's setting up the insurance and signing the papers because it didn't go through the last day since they had to go through another company and wait for a quote (you know the RHD hassles lol). I say alright and my friend and I wait some more. During this time, the guy with the Subaru in Mississauga is emailing/calling me asking if I've left yet, as I said I'll be there for 11ish to make the deal. I try to keep him updated throughout.
From what I understand, Mr. P is at work and Ms. A is doing all of this herself, as it will be in her name anyway. They were also getting the keys to their new house this day also at 7pm and they wanted the car beforehand.
I get extremely vague texts of what is going on after about an hour and a half of zero communication. I'm confused as hell but I keep waiting while my friend is getting impatient and Mr. K waiting in Mississauga is also.
Noon comes up and I still don't know what is going on. I've made phone calls but Ms. A does NOT pick up her cell. She says she's signing papers and will be there soon, so I continue to wait. More time goes on and I forget the reason but I said I can drop off the car at her new house if that helps her situation if I can just get the money so I can go get my new car. More nothing... and at 1pm I decide to call it quits, apologize to my friend for coming all the way here to sit for FOUR HOURS for no reason. I had to start work at 1:30pm so that's why I left.
About 5 minutes after I leave, she says she's on her way with her friend with the money. I said I can't meet there as I have to go to work now in Kitchener (where she is from at the time... they were getting the new house in Cambridge that night), so she can just meet me there. She sends some nasty texts having to do with "well I'm in Cambridge now so why should I go there now" sort of thing... Women are always right, right?
Anyway, I keep texting her while I'm at work, and she says that she'll bring a deposit to my work at around 7pm that is enough that I can pick up the Subaru, and we'll meet Saturday the 5th at 9am again to finalize the deal. That works for me so I wait... and wait... and wait... Work was busy as hell so I was there well after closing. I get a text around 10:45 saying she's "still at work"... so she's at work now? She works at a hospital and from what I understand, they have extremely erratic on-call etc hours so that's fine as long as they meet me in the morning this time...
I update Mr. K, my seller in Mississauga of the plans, and he says it's ok but he's got stuff to do so I'd really have to be there around 11am this time. My friend agrees once again to meet up and wait with me and drive me to Mississauga after my car is sold.
It's Saturday Sept 5th now, and I am at the MTO at 9am yet again, waiting. My friend tells me he's running late and will be there around 10am. I say that's fine, and if they don't show up, we'll go drop a deposit off on the car anyway to secure my buying position.
9:30am I am sitting in the MTO with a phonebook, trying to decipher the last name of Ms. A from her voicemail (when they say their name and then it says they're unavailable; her mailbox was full so I couldn't leave a message and she wasn't picking up her phone again otherwise) so I could call her house. I remember they changed houses, so my search was pointless anyway. I call Mr. P's work, and they're not open so I couldn't get any info from there either. I leave an imperative PM on Mr. P's account on here (the only time he's logged on, to this day, was when I got the PM). They never showed up so a bit after 10am we head to Toronto to look at a BMW for him and drop off the deposit on the Subaru.
Mr. K and I make a receipt of $500 for a deposit, and just for formalities, we fill out the form stating that if this deal doesn't go through in 14 days, I lose priority and if the car sells, I lose $325 of the deposit to pay for what I told him to put on the car (needed tires and safety certificate). I knew this deal would easily go through because they have insurance on my car etc so I was expecting early in the week to have my car sold and pay off Mr. K and take the car.
Sunday, Monday come and go and I've still heard NOTHING from either Mr. P or Ms. A. I called Mr. P's shop Monday since they were open now, but it was his day off, they didn't have his new house number, so I just left a message asking for Mr. P to call me back Tuesday morning then.
Tuesday morning now and I haven't gotten a call by the time I finished school at 1pm, so I call back and I finally get to talk to Mr. P! I express my concern about no one getting back to me but I understand it must've been a hectic weekend with the new house and moving and all, so I just want to make sure they're still buying the car and he says they are, but his wife Ms. A is supposed to be taking care of this so I should talk to her again.
I get a hold of Ms. A via text finally on Wednesday Sept 9th (unconfirmed until I can double check). She says she'll drop off the deposit that night while I'm at work in Kitchener again. I make her promise and she said she'll be there until she "runs into a bathtub" (stupid joke.. something to do with she hit a sink with her van wtf?? I'm scared to sell my GTR to this person..). Anyway, I'm waiting at work, and she doesn't show up, so she CALLS (gasp!) me and says that she's just going to bring me the full amount because these certified cheques cost money and she'd might as well just do it once. She says that she's going to drop her kid off at school at 9:30am on Thursday Sept 10th, as it's right down the street from my college. I say I can meet then because I have no class between 9am-10am, and I'll just get my friend to drive me down to pick up the Subaru that day. Sounds cool. I'm excited.
Thursday Sept 10th.
I finish class and I go to the Tim Horton's across from my college where we're supposed to meet. 9:30am on my watch, so I make a text. She says her mom is taking the kids to school now, and she's waiting for her friend to drive her. It's her friend's only day off, so she wanted to sleep in a bit. Ok that's understandable.. So I agree to meet at 10am and I'd be skipping class, but I was willing to make the sacrifice..
10am goes by... she says her friend is still getting ready... I say ok.. she tells me she's on Street X which is close to my school, so I drive there as I thought it'd be easier for her.
This is where the real fun starts.
I'm waiting at the new agreed-upon meeting place at the gas station near the street. She says she'll be there in 10 minutes.
10 minutes go by and she's not there. Apparently her friend is now dying her hair. WTF. I HATE WOMEN.
I drive onto the actual street and park on the edge of a school's parking lot and try calling her. She picks up after some effort on my part, and I say "I'm on the street you said your friend is on. Can I get the house number so I can come over, pick up the cheque, sign over the ownership and leave the car with you?" She says no. She's waiting for her friend to drive her.
I really don't know what the hell is going on, yet again, like on Friday morning, but I persist.
~10:30am
Something along the lines of she's at her friend's house, waiting for her other friend who is dying her hair somewhere on the other side of Cambridge to come with the van that has the car seats for her babies. She said she can't take the car because she doesn't have baby seats and safety is her first concern. I think that's the only understandable point she made this whole time.
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