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  • #46
    So you are going to small claims ?

    If so you cannot claim any expenses or the original fee , only damages from the defendant.

    I have been dealing with angry clients that keep doing this for 10 years in my business and i know the process and whats involved , the court will want proof not point of view and you don't have that . I don't mean to sound harsh but you will require a third party who will testify that the transmission was faulty when you took delivery. You will find regardless of wether the part is new or used you would be expected to have it installed by a qualified mechanic and no one, no DIYer no matter how self certified they are to do the job is considered a "qualified mechanic" .

    I can tell you from experience ( and i'm not saying you have done this yourself) that it is possible to shatter gears and damage a transmission very quickly sidestepping the clutch etc. For this reason there will be reasonable doubt that it was fine when you took delivery of it and there has been the possibility of you damaging it yourself.

    Angry phone calls only prove that the vendor does not address clients in a respectful and courteous manner - it does not prove they sold you a bad transmission.

    I have to unfortunately agree with the vendor that taking a broken transmission to a shop to get checked out will not change anything. It only provides proof that it is broken , it will not provide any indication of how it was broken or who broke it. I have seen a Ford escort XR3i transmission destroy itself in less than 30 miles of use after another shop forgot to fill it with oil, it doesn't take long in a stick shift to end up with an expensive casement of broken gears - bearings and burnt syncho rings.

    I don't want you to think I am trying to give you a hard time here even though it looks a little judgemental, i'd love to see the vendor come forward and help you out regardless of whos fault it is ( I have to do this myself because sometimes it's not worth the aggro or public bad mouthing even if you know the client is in the wrong ), I also don't want to give you bad or wrong advice - that also would do you no good. I have your best interests at heart here when I say what I say.

    I would still advise you chalk it up to experience , tell the vendor what you think of them if it gives you the satisfaction to do so only after you are sure they won't help you - i prefer to burn no bridges even in the most infuriating of situations. strip the box yourself , rebuild it , get the car on the road and realise that you have learnt something about the human race, and learnt how to rebuild a GTR tranmission.

    You can also take pride in the tranny you rebuilt yourself

    Going forward in the manner you state will only make you poorer , take your car off the road longer , stress you out needlessly and make the juducial system richer.

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    • #47
      Yes I'm going to small claims. I don't think it works how you think it works, it's very different in quebec than it is in ontario.


      It doesn't matter even if I had damaged it - They shouldn't have offered a warranty and then changed what the warranty covers after purchase, or refuse to honour their word.

      and no matter how botched the installation, it couldn't cause damage like this.

      On the mechanic front:
      Whoever installed the transmission in the factory is not a certified mechanic, I would bet on that.
      Also, one of the people who helped me install it is a mechanic.
      If I am capable and competent enough to build my entire car from a bare shell (including the entire engine) I think I could say that that proves I can install a transmission. Plus they knew that when I bought it, we discussed it before i left there.

      The facts don't change: They offered a warranty, then when there was immediate problems with the transmission, refused to cover it without any cause. So even if I had been the one who broke it they should not have warranted that it wouldn't break.

      And yes it's easy to destroy a transmission through misuse/no fluid or whatever. BUt all of those things are obvious when you open it up which I was more than willing to do.

      I wouldn't bother suing over a $300 R32 transmission, but this is the most expensive non-exotic manual transmission in the world and I think it's worth a trip or two to montreal to recover $3000.
      Last edited by Terrh; 10-26-2012, 10:12 AM.
      1992 GTR - 2.7L, GT2871R's, forged bottom end, big valves, 270* cams, R34 getrag
      2000 Honda Insight - 70+mpg daily driver
      2003 Sierra 2500HD Diesel - Tow vehicle

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      • #48
        Wish you the best of luck Terrh! I'm curious if the recorded calls can be admissable if you didn't tell them you were recording the call?
        Hopefully the judge is sympathetic and supports you. Maybe you'll get even more money back!
        I THINK these are the same guys I bought my car from. I had no problems that they didn't sort. That was over 3 years ago though.

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        • #49
          Out of interest - what fluid did you fill it with ?

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          • #50
            Not that it's on topic in this thread whatsoever, but $93 worth of toyota V160 fluid and another $60 of mobil 1 ATF in the tcase.
            1992 GTR - 2.7L, GT2871R's, forged bottom end, big valves, 270* cams, R34 getrag
            2000 Honda Insight - 70+mpg daily driver
            2003 Sierra 2500HD Diesel - Tow vehicle

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            • #51
              Racism and racist comments are STRICTLY NOT TOLERATED on GT-R Canada.
              If I see any other racist comments, whether joking or not, offending members will be banned immediately and permanently without a second chance.
              This thread has served it's purpose, and will be closed to further commenting.

              Best of luck to the member and said vendor on coming to an agreeable solution.
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