Dyno Results with water meth

[gtrjon]

hey evilgtr i made 421awhp at rg on 11psi with the fuel system you sold me. I am also running a aem meth kit with 100% meth (yea i know its bad for the pump) but it was just starting to barley spray at the 11psi. ill be going back for 29psi with a better clutch sometime soon!

[menace]

Where is the best place to pick up methyl hydrate? Also, when you guys mix it 50/50 with water, is that distilled water or just plain old tap water?

Thanks!

[evilgtr]

17psi on pump gas , 22psi with meth

[Redone]

what boost?

[red35]

Thats awesome. Sounds like our builds are very similar. I have the Tomei fuel pump and 550 injectors, but wanting to go for some big numbers i purchased the Powerhouse twin pump kit and some ID 1000cc injectors. Might be a little over kill but whatever at least fuel wont be ever be a issue plus it will look good in the engine bay.

U should drive over to Regina and we can go for a rip in your car.

[evilgtr]

I cant post pics, I have a printed copy of my w/m dyno and a picture of my pump gas dyno so I can provide them to people via email or I can send a pic from my phone if anyone would like to see them. Iv only drove the car 3 or 4 times since I got it back home and sweet jesus its retarded it scares me now and I havnt even opened it up wde open yet.

red35 - thank you very much for help ( had we found the right parts haha ) Cam came through in the end and located spare parts.
I had bought a full 1000 plus HP capable fuel system when my intentions were to run race gas but then I decided to substitute C16 with alcohol injection which meant I wouldnt need the huge supply of fuel so I sold the after market set up.
Currently all I have is a Wahlbro 255lph pump,stock supply and return line,aeromotive FPR,HKS fuel rail, and 870cc injectors.

up to 550whp your stock lines,fuel rail and fuel pressure regulator will be suffecient dont let anyone tell you other wise. You need 1 or 2 big pumps to supply the fuel and large injectors to deliver it thats the key.

I made 520whp with stock rail ,stock fpr and 870's and it wasnt maxed out - it was just maxed out on timing,boost ect.

I only added the HKS rail, braided lines,and Aeromotive FPR just for looks more then anything

[red35]

Congrats on the new numbers. Glad to hear you found a jet. I am hoping mine will have the same result when it goes in.

What are you running for a fuel system?

[Black BNR32]

congrats Jeff, be sure to post up results and pics!

bump

[hozer]

Cobraa yes your tuner is being safer then stock or he did drop the ball.
Hozer thank you very much for the graphs I can't upload mine. Mine look quiet similar my peak torque is at 5500rpm and HP is still climbing hard at 7000rpm but didn't want to rev it to hard just for a big number.
What are you running for turbo's or turbo ?

Was running a single Borg sx300

[evilgtr]

My dyno results with and without meth follow almost identical curves on the graph, I just took a closer look and my torque comes on around 200rpm sooner across the rev range and peaks at +/-5400 with meth and +/-5500rpm without so very close

[evilgtr]

Cobraa yes your tuner is being safer then stock or he did drop the ball.
Hozer thank you very much for the graphs I can't upload mine. Mine look quiet similar my peak torque is at 5500rpm and HP is still climbing hard at 7000rpm but didn't want to rev it to hard just for a big number.
What are you running for turbo's or turbo ?

[hozer]

At 4800 RPM (w/ meth) your making way less HP than without. More top end but less middle range. 320 vs 270

Yes. That's due to tuning differences (timing, cam degree, more boost etc) and largely a result of increased turbo lag. Also keep in mind this car has been tuned very specifically to drive like this, I'm sure different results could be achieved based upon your goals.

The only correlation I wished to show was that you can, no question, increase your WHP.

As for the mix I run 50/50 (volume) meth and distilled water.

[GTRADDICT]

Don't mean to hijack, but here is some real world dyno graphs before/after on my car.

Before Meth


After Meth


Mine is piped in single nozzle right before my TB like so...



Extra 4lbs or boost, knock is halved and extra ~50WHP and ft/lb. Best money you can spend on your car

At 4800 RPM (w/ meth) your making way less HP than without. More top end but less middle range. 320 vs 270

[cobrAA]

sadly, I only made 336whp , my tuner def. choked this one, I will need to talk to him tomorrow. its almost impossible to make that low of a number lol.

[gtrjerry73]

Wow that's a big difference what kind of mix were you running? I'm gonna pm you