Ben's Project

[BenC]

Just a recap of what I've picked up already that was in my Green Bastard project thread.























The R33 crank I bought managed to crack sitting in a box in my basement:roll: Mcfly feel free to refund my $1200 anytime asshole









I ended up Grabbing Anthony's shell (wingnut)





Waiting for a heart beat






Some Barely used parts that I grabbed off Anthony

Coppermix Clutch


Head w/3 angle valve job, exhaust humps removed, and GReddy cam gears. Obviously a bit dirtier than this right now


Even grabbed his Le mans spec turbos





Some more Stuff I've purchased














That's just about it for now. Need to pick up another crank and new bearings and I can finally assemble this skank

[PL_GTR]

Good luck man, looks like a sick upgrade, just make the engine bay look really baller and bad a$$ after you finish

[Rollie]

Nice rims ben I know where you live lol can't wait to see this build start

[DougTaylor]

I agree on the wheels, if you end up with another set of those gunmetal te37s (for a good price), let me know!!

[mcfly]

The R33 crank I bought managed to crack sitting in a box in my basement:roll: Mcfly feel free to refund my $1200 anytime asshole

See that's funny, for one I never sold you the crank. It was sold to Braden thirteen months ago now and prior to being sold it was Magnafluxed at EC Automotive Machining as I had fully intended to use the crank in my own engine. When Braden came to me 11 months after the original purchase demanding money back there was no help from me and there never will be.

During the eleven months that the crank was not in my possession it's anyones guess as to what it was subjected to. There are two other identical cranks being used right now, one of which is making 1066whp and spinning 11k rpm.


Now if Braden had come to me after receiving the crank and said "hey this is cracked" (which it most definitely was not) I would have been more then happy to give the cash back. Eleven months is a very long time to abuse something.

[BenC]

Lol you don't even know what you're talking about. I bought the crank off you and I came to you asking why it was cracked. Braden has nothing to do with this. If you don't even know who you sold it to you probably don't know much about the crank... Your whole time frame argument is irrelevant and weak as it's been sitting in a box since purchased. I'm lucky to even find these 2 cracks because they are so small. Even after 11 months

I've talked to several machine shops and sent the pictures out to a few crank specialists. The consensus is

A. Judging by the numerous black dots on that specific journal. It is a welded journal. They tend to crack at the oil passages during the welding process. What do ya know

B The oil passages obviously have been machined which could have cracked during that process.

Do these "identical cranks" have oil passage machining, ground mains or a welded journal with cracks on it??

Theirs alot of work done to this crank. You say you had it was magnafluxed. Prove it.

I'll be doing some tests to see what kind of abuse these can take before they crack like that. I bet they're will be dents all over it before it cracks. Mine has none what do you know

So unless you're going to pay me GTFO this thread. I don't expect you to but as long as everyone knows what kind of person you are I don't care I even offered to be nice you to pay half so I can get a used crank to throw in. You still keep the money for yourself and your greedy 40k build

See that's funny, for one I never sold you the crank. It was sold to Braden thirteen months ago now and prior to being sold it was Magnafluxed at EC Automotive Machining as I had fully intended to use the crank in my own engine. When Braden came to me 11 months after the original purchase demanding money back there was no help from me and there never will be.

During the eleven months that the crank was not in my possession it's anyones guess as to what it was subjected to. There are two other identical cranks being used right now, one of which is making 1066whp and spinning 11k rpm.


Now if Braden had come to me after receiving the crank and said "hey this is cracked" (which it most definitely was not) I would have been more then happy to give the cash back. Eleven months is a very long time to abuse something.

[BenC]

I appreciate the other comments though. Wheels should look good:-)

[Zacho]

/In for build progress. Looks like some good stuff.

One thing though, if you spent 1200$ on something, wouldn't you check it out and look it over before x number of months passed? I had my set of rims come and the day they got here I looked at all the boxes and colours before I went on a trip and all was well. Opened up the boxes when I got back (1 week) and saw one of the wheels that was in the correctly labelled box, was actually the wrong offset very slightly (checked the stamp on the inside). Don't know about you guys but when I drop 1200 on something, I usually look it over really good when I get it especially if its used.

[JNS Performance]

He did look at it yes, but if you knew exactly how small these cracks are you would understand how you easily could have missed it. It wasn't until he pulled it out of the box to do all the clearances etc.. that we noticed them and just by luck, I thought it was a scratch or hair at first. If this had been installed in the engine it most likely would have caused failure.

Crack is literally thinner than a hair and about 1cm long.

For the record, I didn't purchase this crank. My motor was already built when he received it. Here is Ben's original thread with him receiving the crank (Post 2, Page 3) : http://forums.gtrcanada.com/showthre...=green+bastard

[mcfly]

yeah that was my mistake, i saw JNS imports and mixed up the thieves.

My bad. Either way. Crank was in impeccable condition when it left me.
Good luck with your build.

[Brewpubeaver]

almost a year it takes to complain...

sorry your up the creek.

as a 3rd party it looks like your trying to get paid for breaking your own stuff. i dont know Mcfly, but he has been selling a lot of stuff lately and there are not other people with this problem.

cant expect to call someone out, then not want to hear from them.


cool build though, good luck with the fuel pump. on DD cars they tend to heat up, and burn out.

[r32king23]

Some of those parts look familiar.........lol, i'm hopefully cleaning my garage tomorrow, i'll find those bolts.

[BenC]

Thanks for the parts Curtis! Not in a rush to get those bolts

As for this crank. Understandable that it's been some time. Lets see what some machine shops had to say about it though. (It appears my pics didn't go through for some)

Here's What I said:

"I have a quick question for you. I purchased a crank awhile back. He had allot of work done to it including putting a taper on the journals around oil passages. It has a crack coming off each end of the oil passage on the same specific journal. This journal has numerous black dots embedded into it whereas the others do not. I was wondering if you knew how it cracked and why it has these dots on it. It hasn't been in a car since the machining. Maybe its a welded journal? Do you think it could crack like this by dropping it?"

These are the pic's I sent

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/smokinterd/?action=view&current=2008sep21092.jpg

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/smokinterd/?action=view&current=2008sep21085.jpg

(rich@temperformance.com)
" I didn't get your pictures, but it sounds like a
welded crank. Small air bubbles sometimes appear as well as
cracks when the crank is welded too hot or too fast. It
will not happen from dropping it.
Rich"

I re sent the pics..

"thats from a weld. The cracks are the thin shop of the rod journal oil hole.
Rich" The last bit of this sentence doesn't make sense? lol

Scott Wichlacz (motorm@lakefield.net) motormachining.com
"What is this crank from? It is not from dropping it though. Do you know if it is a steel crank or a nodular iron crank?
It appears that it was welded.
Tell me more. Who did the work? Maybe that will help me help you.
Scott"

Dennis (dennis@wellsracing.com)
"Sounds like the journal has been welded and repaired."

(info@crankshaftsupply.com)
"Was that rod journal welded!" "Because sometimes when there welded. You get little cracks out of the oil hole where the hole is plug with carbon so they don't get welded shut."

This would get anyone to try and get their money back. But if you still aren't convinced.. Lets say hypothetically I did accidentally drop it.. I have an r32 crank here that we have been experimenting with.This proves just what kind of abuse these things can go through. We dropped it 3 times on pavement at various heights. Forgot to press rec for the first one but here's the other 2. No cracks as of yet. I took some pics of the journals afterward which i'll post when I get some more batteries

This was at waist height. Did this one twice

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/smokinterd/?action=view&current=MVI_2787.flv

This one was over my head. Not 10ft lol but around 7.5 feet high. It was a stone that hit Braden not a piece of the crank

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/smokinterd/?action=view&current=MVI_2791.flv

[BenC]

BTW yes I've also heard that about the out of tank fuel pumps:-( I'm Thinking with a small 12v fan and some heatsink modifications is should extend the life by quite a bit. It will look retarded but what ever works

[Brewpubeaver]

like i said, i am a 3rd party not interrested in the outcome. i was just saying your timeline sucks. 11 months anything could happen. playing the devils advacate.


i have never seen any fans on a fuel pump befor, only some ducting to help get cool air on it. But this was on a non street car.

i went with duel bosch 44`s or what ever they are called. worked well for my power goals on the last project. i will probly go the same route when i go for more power on the GTR.


oh, if your in need of a kick ass crank..

http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=191978