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  • Car won't run

    Okay i swapped in:
    Tomei M7655 turbos
    deutschwerks 800cc injectors
    Z32 MAFs
    Tomei fuel pressure regulator
    godspeed fuel rail
    Apexi power FC L-Jetro



    First try in the morning it starts up, runs rough, and dies after ten seconds. Then it won't start up at all. I assume I am flooding the engine with fuel(800cc's)

    Is there something i have overlooked in the power FC to fix this?

    Ive set it to Z32 MAFs and i've put in the injector difference percent(55.5%)
    I Couldn't figure out what to change the latency too but I assume it would run regardless?

    I have removed the plugs and they are soaked with fuel, and the fact that it starts i assume i have spark.
    Do i need to change the MAF % value?

    I apologize if some questions are trivial but this is my first go at a PFC and I'm just trying to get it running good enough to get it to a tuner.

    What are peoples thoughts?
    91 GTR
    10 Impreza
    Revs like a rotary, stings like a 2JZee

  • #2
    Sorry I can't remember the math for injector compensation so I'll assume you have done it correct.
    I've found these cars hard starting when cold if coils are weak, also if the plugs are flooded you might want to swap them out.
    Also if it ran before on the stock mafs maybe you should put them back in and don't swap them back till you get it running right as too many variables make it impossible to determine what is the cause.
    Check all piping cause leaks after the maf will cause flooding.
    Essentially start from the basics.
    If the pfc is a used one which still has some else's tune in it do a reset on the ecu with the commander and remember that you must cycle the key off then on to complete the reset.
    Try these things and if you have some backround on things that have been done since it last ran might help.
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    • #3
      I have reset the tune, and cleaned the plugs. It friggen sucks if i have to go back to the old MAFs. That means resplicing the old connectors back in. If its needed then i will do it but if i remember correctly the car could run with the MAFs unplugged before. Does anyone know if there's something i missed in the PFC?
      91 GTR
      10 Impreza
      Revs like a rotary, stings like a 2JZee

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      • #4
        Double check injectors. Check latency. I had that issue with my deatschwerks had to play with the latency to get it to run right.

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        • #5
          I have a graph for the latency vs voltage. What voltage do they operate at?
          91 GTR
          10 Impreza
          Revs like a rotary, stings like a 2JZee

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          • #6
            If you can't figure out which latency number to use start with a lower injector percent like 40%.
            At least you won't flood it so easily.
            Then once you get it to stay running use a wide band to adjust the percentage up.
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            entelijint
            stop saying "yall"... i'm picturing you with a mullet.
            mullet+skyline=*shiver* i dont even want to think about it
            Originally posted by specialedition
            He ended up popping a tired and he failed at life.

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            • #7
              Ive screwed around plenty with numbers, different injector sizes, latency, fuel pressure. It seems like theres a different issue because after all the changes it does exactly the same thing. If i tell the PFC i have Z32 MAFs is that like all the tuning needed in regard to the MAFs?
              91 GTR
              10 Impreza
              Revs like a rotary, stings like a 2JZee

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              • #8
                Through the comander that is all you can do.
                With Datalogit you have more options.

                If it is still able to start try an reduce the coolant temp correction tables.
                Also if you keep the throttle open will it try and keep running?
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                you\'re not listening
                entelijint
                stop saying "yall"... i'm picturing you with a mullet.
                mullet+skyline=*shiver* i dont even want to think about it
                Originally posted by specialedition
                He ended up popping a tired and he failed at life.

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                • #9
                  Tow it to a tuner?
                  Dang! You got shocks, pegs... Lucky! You ever take it off any sweet jumps?

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                  • #10
                    Ive considered towing it but i dont want to get there and they are like okay u need this n this come back when u have it. It won't start at all now :$
                    91 GTR
                    10 Impreza
                    Revs like a rotary, stings like a 2JZee

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                    • #11
                      I'll be testing it for spark tomorow. I have a feeling something I havent touched has just slowly worn out and is giving me trouble now.
                      91 GTR
                      10 Impreza
                      Revs like a rotary, stings like a 2JZee

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                      • #12
                        4 Free tows by CAA.
                        1993 GTR
                        1992 GTS-T Type - M (Sold)

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                        • #13
                          Spark was good, all i found was one bad plug. Not enough to stop the motor from running but i bought new plugs anyways.
                          91 GTR
                          10 Impreza
                          Revs like a rotary, stings like a 2JZee

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                          • #14
                            Which plugs and what kind of gap are you running
                            Dang! You got shocks, pegs... Lucky! You ever take it off any sweet jumps?

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                            • #15
                              Ngk bpre7s i think they are, ive tried .8mm and 1.1mm
                              91 GTR
                              10 Impreza
                              Revs like a rotary, stings like a 2JZee

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