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  • Garret 2860s or r32 n1?

    My back story with this car is that i bought a shell from a user here. The plans was do small body work and anything else i can do on it until around this time of year when i can finally afford an engine swap and put it in. However then someone else posted up a front clip that they "got in a storage deal that went wrong". he had no idea what was in it, or what it was worth so we went up had a look, did compression and decided to take it. When we got home discovered it had r32 n1 turbos on it.
    Since then i've had them serviced, 1 rebuilt 1 was ok'd and left alone.
    They are Inconel wheels, a/r 64. The guy who rebuilt said they were essentially the same as garret t25.

    I havn't driven the car so the feel of it will mean nothing, and my plans for now are leave it as a budget build. I'm in school and can't afford to dump money into it, as it seems alot of people on here manage to do. As such its going to stay with moderate power and few upgrades beyond doing the suspension and handling components.

    I've stumbled upon a deal where i can help someone clean their garage, the end result being i get a set of garret 2860-5 to slap on my car, essentially free. I was talking to Blake(littledevilcrx) while he was at my house, and he pointed out the fact that if i'm not going to be pulling big power maybe its better that i stick with the n1s. On the spreadsheet people linked me when i was searching for what turbos they were it said they were good for around 600 hp. I don't think i'll ever make it there with this car, so in that sense they should be good for me. He suggested that with that in mind, maybe its better to keep them around as they'll spool quicker than the 2860s and give me a more enjoyable experience.

    I'm looking for other peoples opinions. The car is essentially stock right now, k&n intakes, greddy piping to z32 mafs, stock turbo/ic piping with a devided twin turbo pipe. Stock injectors, os geiken ts2b clutch, kakimoto cat back, might be getting veilside 3.5" turbo back. Exhaust manifolds self ported, sandblasted not polished(don't have tools), stock ecu, mishimoto rad. I think thats all.

    In my position would you use the 2860s, or would you keep them around(or maybe sell them) and use the r32 n1s?

    Thanks =]

  • #2
    No. Blake is right. Unless you plan to go over 500whp. the N1 can get you there with cams. Basicly a set of N1 with no cam and budget build will give you about 400-425whp. The -5 will also give you the same whp but with a delay of 300-500rpm.
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    • #3
      Good to know, I'll ave myself the lag and stick with the n1s. Still wouldn't mind getting the free 2860s even if they end up sold later.

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      • #4
        You're obviously on a budget so I'd sick to your guns as focus on more important things (not car related), even more so if you're buying on student loans or mommy loans (that could do more good towards bills/house down payment for a huge garage!)

        Anyway, n1 will be better suited. You want the bigger turbos to perform well it'll take more money than an exhaust and little bits here and there.

        The leading cause of gtr failures is!!!!!! Modifying them. Keep it runnig while it is.

        But hey if you can afford to fix it (whether its a broken pipe or blown $8k engine rebuilt), then go bigger indeed!
        Last edited by Bruizer; 12-10-2013, 05:48 PM.
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        • #5
          You need to find out what the turbo model. The R32 didn't make n1's. They made nismo turbos. These turbos are very close. 600 hp Journal bearings vs 640 ball bearings. Specs below.

          I would be in for some garage cleaning for a good set of -5 lol

          32Nismo (14411-06U00) T04B T3 44.6 - 60.1 62T 0.42 T25 T25 41.7 - 53.0 CD79 0.64 15° 270° ~600PS


          Garrett 707160-5 GT25 GT25 47.2 - 60.0 62T 0.6 GT25 GT25 47 - 53.8 76T 0.64 BB ~640PS


          n1's are as follows

          33N1 (14411-24U10) T3 T3 44.5 - 60.1 55T 0.42 T25 T25 41.7 - 53.0 CD79 0.64 360° ~560PS
          34N1 (14411-AA401) T3 C106 44.5 - 60.0 55T 0.6 T25 GT25 42.4 - 53.8 62T 0.64 BB ~500PS
          34N1 (14411-AA402) T3 C106 44.5 - 60.0 55T 0.6 T25 GT25 42.4 - 53.8 62T 0.64 BB ~500PS
          34N1 (14411-AA403) GT22 C106 44.5 - 60.0 55T 0.42 T25 GT25 42.4 - 53.8 62T 0.64 BB ~500PS

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bruizer View Post
            You're obviously on a budget so I'd sick to your guns as focus on more important things (not car related), even more so if you're buying on student loans or mommy loans (that could do more good towards bills/house down payment for a huge garage!)

            Anyway, n1 will be better suited. You want the bigger turbos to perform well it'll take more money than an exhaust and little bits here and there.

            The leading cause of gtr failures is!!!!!! Modifying them. Keep it runnig while it is.

            But hey if you can afford to fix it (whether its a broken pipe or blown $8k engine rebuilt), then go bigger indeed!
            I'm buying a shell for 2500, taking parts off it, and selling it for 2500 2 weeks later. Both deals are lined up already. That is why i am getting "mommy loans". My schooling is paid up, as is everything else i have going on, except this flip. If it wasn't already sold i wouldn't be buying it.
            I essentially get free coilovers, oil filter relocate/cooler, and a set of oem gtr rims.

            Thanks for advice on turbos, just remounted the n1's tonight =]. It was never running as i purchased a shell and a clip.

            You need to find out what the turbo model. The R32 didn't make n1's. They made nismo turbos. These turbos are very close. 600 hp Journal bearings vs 640 ball bearings. Specs below.

            I would be in for some garage cleaning for a good set of -5 lol

            32Nismo (14411-06U00) T04B T3 44.6 - 60.1 62T 0.42 T25 T25 41.7 - 53.0 CD79 0.64 15° 270° ~600PS


            Garrett 707160-5 GT25 GT25 47.2 - 60.0 62T 0.6 GT25 GT25 47 - 53.8 76T 0.64 BB ~640PS


            n1's are as follows

            33N1 (14411-24U10) T3 T3 44.5 - 60.1 55T 0.42 T25 T25 41.7 - 53.0 CD79 0.64 360° ~560PS
            34N1 (14411-AA401) T3 C106 44.5 - 60.0 55T 0.6 T25 GT25 42.4 - 53.8 62T 0.64 BB ~500PS
            34N1 (14411-AA402) T3 C106 44.5 - 60.0 55T 0.6 T25 GT25 42.4 - 53.8 62T 0.64 BB ~500PS
            34N1 (14411-AA403) GT22 C106 44.5 - 60.0 55T 0.42 T25 GT25 42.4 - 53.8 62T 0.64 BB ~500PS
            They are 32 nismos. 14411-06u00.
            Last edited by rvander1992; 12-10-2013, 09:09 PM.

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            • #7
              We want pics and a build thread lol

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              • #8
                I'm to **** at writing, i guess i could post my story and put pictures up same as i did here but it won't be anything fantastic. I'll start saving pictures up i guess :P

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