intercoolers......?

[gunr]

dose any one have a take on delta fin intercoolers? better or worse than tube and fin or bar and plate?
can anyone recommend a good intercooler setup for rb20det running rb25 turbo?

[Brando13]

I too would like to know the answer to this question

[BrianV8]

this is hands down your best bang for buck setup and is the closest thing to bolt in as you'll get. I've sold tonnes of these with nothing but good reviews. PM me for pricing and shipping.

http://www.godspeedproject.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=513

[BrianV8]

godspeed and there wantabe jdm,Its all china crap.
might get one of ebay.lol.same sht
best is the biggest on you can get.3 row 11x23x5" thick
Go big or go home is the atitude you might want to think of.

Actually depending on the item your looking at lots are made in the same factories as the brand name products. Radiators are made by koyo, coilovers are made in the same place as megan and ksport, f1 clutches are made by exedy, etc etc. Not to say there isn't anything from china. But i have found that godspeed has more stuff coming from brand name places than china than most people.

Also you size and intercooler for thickness on how much power you want to make. a standard 3" intercooler is more than enough to get you to 450-500hp. 5" is completely useless and the only thing it will do is give you more turbo lag because its just FAR MORE volume the turbo has to pressurize before you get any boost to the motor

[johnnyjohnny]

+1 what Brian said. 'Go big or go home' is pretty bad advice unless you know the application details and intended use.

Check out this thread on SAU for some good information on RB25 FMIC styles/plumbing:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Summary-Front-Mount-Inte-t190267.html&hl=are+series+1+2+rb25det+intake+manifold+the+same

[BrianV8]

thats another advantage to the godspeed setup i listed above. There is very little piping going through the engine bay to get heat soaked since the inlet and outlet are on the same side. And due to it not being wrap around like the TRUST setup you get more intercooler surface area.

[BrianV8]

oh the cores for the intercoolers those are china. But riddle me this, i personally know 6 people who run china cores with no issues, i run one in my car pushing 20 pounds of boost all day, another guy is running 24 pounds all day in his DSM. I've sold tones here on gtrc with nothing but good things to say. Not yet have i heard an issue with a core leaking or any other problems.

So tell me this, why would i pay 3 times as much for a brand name core that does the exact same job as a well built knock off for 1/3rd the price?

I'm not saying all knocks offs are good, but as a dealer i stand behind godspeed products.

I personally love trying knock off stuff. 90% of my bolt ons on my motor build are godspeed products. Between me and a good porting of the kamloops crew we've gone through almost every piece of what they sell. Havn't sent a single piece back on warranty including any piece i've ever sold to anyone.

If you still have any doubt, go ahead and google reviews, you won't find anything bad about these cores. In fact the only bad reviews you'll find is of ignorant people thinking they know something about a product they have never tried but really have no clue what they are talking about.

Thats why i said, i have personally tested most of the products i sell through godspeed and i have not had in my hand any part i would not put on my car nor sell to someone else. So way i see it is if you get one bad part out of 30 big deal, when you save tonnes of money not having that greddy, or hks, or trust, or megan etc sticker why not try it. If it works fantastic, otherwise you can buy 2 spares and still be cheaper than some brand name stuff.

Lastest part i'm waiting on to try is there new 50mm BOV. Made in the same plant as Tial and once again 1/3 the price. If anyone is interested i should have it on my car next week for reviews

[BrianV8]

haha you can argue until your blue in the face, fact of the matter is i use lots of it and love it. So do many of my customers.

I would never use knock off for engine internals but anything bolting to it hell ya, all the way.

I can guarantee you especially with the manifolds i could slap greddy stickers on them and sell them and they would look and perform genuine and you wouldn't know the difference.

Remember china or not, the engineering has been done by reputable companies, who copies what is what changes.

[RSi]

+1 what Brian said. 'Go big or go home' is pretty bad advice unless you know the application details and intended use.

Check out this thread on SAU for some good information on RB25 FMIC styles/plumbing:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...ifold+the+same

+1 for Brian and Johnnyjohnny... its density, not size that matters....

[RSi]

I have a china IC too... Would buy it again.... Love it, works well, properly priced. WIN WIN WIN

[Skym]

I would buy a ARE intercooler -

http://www.are.com.au/techtalk/intecoolersMR.htm

If you have seen the flow result's with Chinese intercoolers in above link, you would think twice before buying one (would restrict a stock turbo). With similar dimensions, ARE intercoolers flow better.

If your unsure on size, something the size of stock GTR intercooler would work with stock RB25 turbo. It works with a 320 US hp rated HKS 2530 turbo. The RB25 turbo is rated to 300 UK hp, so close.

[BrianV8]

i don't argue that at all, i would not say bar and plate (which most chinese cores are made of) flow better, but end of the day there is nothing wrong with them quality wise. Quality seems to be the dispute not performance.

I had a trust tube and fin and swapped to a chinese bar and plate, honestly i never noticed a difference. I won't ever spend as much as i spent on that trust ever again

[love_boost]

for the price chania bob stuff isnt bad.
but sometimes the efficiency is, i will garuntee a Greddy/HKS ect core will flow way better and cool way better than a china core. i know back when i had my fairlady getting bigger sidemounts, godspeed was around 300 cheaper than stillen but the stillen intercooler was proven independatly on a forum to be way more efficient. (using a temperature sensor and calculating pressure drop.
same with maifolds with ext. wastegate, i wouldnt shell out the 2G for a dece top mount, but im sure it is way more efficient.

[weirtech]

"flow" isn't the most important thing with an intercooler. i'd say efficiency is. a bar and plate intercooler will be more efficient at cooling the air charge than a tube and fin intercooler. naturally, "flow" is a part of that efficiency equation, but not the most important imo. if you want the most efficient intercooler in a drag application, an air to water setup is the way to go.

[BrianV8]

has anyone visite godspeed web page?
all crap china
nothing from japan nor from anywhere else.
The point here is why will I pay godspeed 100 bucks more when I can get the same FMIC from ebay for half price.They just charge you for a fcking sticker or a goddam engraving.
Thats the goddam point here brother

if your all up to date with buying products you should know going direct is always more expensive. Thats why you talk to a dealer like me and get that 100bucks knocked off.

And yes lots of it is out of china, but there are different grades of china products. Shadybeaverguy and i have been looking at replicating certain parts and depending who in china makes them you get something decent or total junk. The reason i became a godspeed dealer is because they deal with higher end china products. Products i know won't fall apart on me or anyone else. And on a lot of there stuff you'll see that they offer a 1year+ warranties on which you don't ever see with knock off products. The only other knock off manufacturer i would ever deal with is autobahn88. So trust me i know the quality of the products i sell. If something didn't work i wouldn't sell it. You can ask past people i've done business with, i sell what i know works if i'm not sure or know its not good i'll send them down a different road to avoid any issues.