Ball joint compatible part?

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Hey guys,

ive looked through the list thats stickied and couldnt find anything. Whats compatible with the front lower ball joints on a r32 gts-t,Id figure 300zx but im un sure. For those who have changed them what did you use. Its pretty urgent i just need to know if i have to order from japan or not.

Thanks in advance guys

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no one on the forums has changed a front ball joint on there cars?

[bellis_GTR]

I have never swapped out front lower ball joints yet, but I did replace the outer front ball joints and I used a pair from a Z32. I know its not much help but maybe if thos are compatible maybe the lower ball joints will be too? Keep us updated on what you find out.

[esh]

s14 240sx front balljoints should fit r32 gtst according to zilvia (http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/344418...ml#post3656020)

I know R33 gts fit as well, because I have fitted R33 gts arms to my HCR32.

[specialedition]

im gonna order the s14 balljoints and see if they fit. If i get them in i will post it up

[cooke24]

I can check Nissan fast when I get back from
Out of town.

[Daryl @ RightDrive]

The front lower ball joint is part of the entire lower arm, so you can't just get
the ball joint from Nissan. S14 won't work. We do sell an aftermarket ball joint that you can use with your existing arm to save money though.

[Supraclean]

Are they moog Daryl?

[Daryl @ RightDrive]

No, they are not Moog. No major company makes aftermarket lower ball joints for the R32 because the ball joint and the arm are one piece. We get them specially from the UK, made by a local shop for this specific purpose.
The S14 arms are different than the R32, and also have the ball joints in the arm as one unit, causing the same problem.

[specialedition]

how much am i looking at the for arm? oem and a/m prices please

[esh]

I can check Nissan fast when I get back from
Out of town.

I've checked before, you would have to buy the whole arm if you wanted oem nissan. Nissan doesn't sell the balljoints separately. Not sure if they do this because the arms fatigue, or they don't trust ppl with pressing out/in balljoints, or they just want to take your moneys.

The front lower ball joint is part of the entire lower arm, so you can't just get
the ball joint from Nissan. S14 won't work. We do sell an aftermarket ball joint that you can use with your existing arm to save money though.

Why wouldn't the s14 bjs work?



On zilvia they mention exact measurements of the balljoint sizes and r32 gtst and s14 fronts are the same. I have read of guys with s13s using r32 gtst arms to bolt onto s14 hubs for 5lug swaps.

The key is that the balljoint must fit the knuckle that you are using. What you don't want to do is use s13 ball joints as the taper is different. Next think you know, the balljoint breaks and all hell breaks loose.

When it comes to arm lengths:

s13 <= r32 < r33 <= s14 (some of those inequalities may be strict).

Also the swaybar endlink holes may differ on the arms as s-chassis endlinks bolt directly to the flcas while r32 gtst do not.

I've read that the UK guys get their r32 gtst balljoints from conceptua tuning:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/R32-GTS-T-...-/110666371541
^ a bit expensive if you ask me.


And the guys in Australia get them from Pedders??

http://www.pedders.com.au/catalogue
^ Go through the catalogue and look up r32 2wd and then compare to 200sx s14 (240sx are 200sx down under). You will see that they have the same part number for lower ball joint: PBJ291


Don't take my word for it though, I would measure r32 and s14 bjs just to be 200% sure. I'll prolly get some s14 one's soon and find out for sure.

[esh]

LOL...then again I could be the wrong one. But I want the TRUTH!

[klys]

well I'm at the point of pressing out the GTS-T front lower ball joint.

I did remove the circlip, yet it doesn't budge. the angles in the arm kinda makes it hard to press out...

anyone have anything thoughts on how to do it? Moog's s14 ball joint that I bought look exactly the same and has circlip nut + cutter pin

[klys]

Well I had a hell of a time getting that ~24 year old Ball joint out, but I got it...

I had to drill thru the ball joint's cylindrical sleeve in a way that the hole would almost kiss the hole in the lower arm.

with this space I was able to hammer it out, where before, It didn't move at all.

I then pressed in the new S14 ball joint, I did have an issue with the boot.

when I put in the circlip I missed my first try and a small protion of the boot slipped from the retainning spring had I not noticed this, and fixed it, when it move around, the whole boot would have slip off with the movement.


so do make sure the boot is still under the spring.

[Dragon Humper]

Having a hydraulic press helps a LOT and/or an Acetylene torch. If you take your time and work carefully a simple vice and a propane plumbing torch can work pretty good too. I have nothing more than a 2tonne arbour press that i got for $100 and i have yet to be left wanting with it.



Jon.