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    Well just spent the best part of 4 hours today trying to fit the carbon fibre hood i got from C-units group buy .

    The hood fits like ass but i need to know if it was because it was originally intended to fit a GTS , or it's just fail manufacturing.

    Please take a careful look at these pics and let me know , C-unit i was going to post this on your original group buy thread for the peeps that wanted to see the stuff fitted but the thread seems to have been deleted (or I'm just blind ).

    I spaced the latch forward by around 13mm and got the latch to drop and catch properly but it leaves a gap all around the hood of 1 inch, I then removed the latch assembly completely and had the front of the hood resting on the rad support and it almost levelled out at the front , but still had an inch too much height at the back. We actually had to remove the rubber corner stops to do this too.

    looking out of the front window you will also see it's around an inch too high meaning it does not drop on the engine bay seal at the back.

    I asked before i bought it if the GTS dmax hood would fir the GTR and was told yes apart from spacing out the latch. Was this correct ?

    Also the countour of the hood does not follow the top of the fenders at all , it dips in the middle and is higher at the back and front.

    opinions ?









    I know there were a few others that bought these so i want to know how you got them to fit ..

    cheers

  • #2
    The genuine D-max hood does not fit GTR properly and requires some modding. This hood doesn't look like a real D-max hood. Is it a knockoff?
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    • #3
      Yes it's a repro that C-unit had manufactured for a GTRC group buy. It's not an original , just a copy of an original!

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      • #4
        Cortexx is correct, it is a repo I had an manufacture made. Real D-max never comes in double sided Carbon Fiber.

        Rgarding the conture, it suppose to be like that. Rep or not. It is the same in every D-max hood. (S13, 180sx, S14..etc.) It is just the design.

        It was my bad because couple of my friends informed me spacing out the latch will solve the problem. However, you are the only one with the R33 version. Everyone else bought the R32 version (OEM and D-max).

        So is that with the hood fully closed and it is still an inch away? I will double check if the GTS-t shares the same hinge assembly as the GTR

        How does it fit on the side? (gap between fenders)

        If it is generally 1" too tall, running GTS-t Latch and hinge should solve the problem. Again, I can double check if that works.
        If It does, I can send those parts to you so you can fix it!!!

        I never have an issue with the R32 one (D-max or not). Here is the pic I have for my car:



        I will contact the manufacture if they have encounter that problem.
        Last edited by C-unit; 05-02-2011, 04:08 AM.
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        • #5
          Hi C-unit

          It is standing around 1 inch too high all around , it only sits flush with the front of the fenders if I remove the front latch altogether and remove the hood bumpstops so it is actually resting on the rad support . It cant be mounted like this because it will rub across the front . The hinges are not adjustable although there may a difference between the 2 styles. The gap at the sides is spot on BUT the profile along the top of the fenders is also different , it stands proud at the front and rear but dips in the middle . If the GTS hinges mount at the back at a different angle that might fix it but can't say for sure unless I actually try some.

          If the different latch and hinges will fix it , i'm game to make it fit using them thanks for replying so fast
          Last edited by cortexx; 05-02-2011, 08:01 AM.

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          • #6
            Mine dips down in the middle as well. It is design, nothing to do with the replica.

            I am checking out the parts # and will let you know asap!!
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            • #7
              you're supposed to run a hood latch pin anyways.

              Just delete stock latch and run pins or use GTS hood latch body and pins.

              GTS hood latch worked for my cf hood, but still fit wonky so I'm using aero catch pins and it fits much, much better. (also safer)

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              • #8
                Ok i solved the hood problem , sold it to an undisclosed recipient for use on a GTS and bought a seibon JU style instead for my GTR.

                Next attempt was to attempt to mount the rear wing.

                I warn you before you read this that there will be alot of sarcasm and , how do i say it politely ? discontent ?

                Now i'm pretty sure that when you buy a part whether it's a hood, rear wing , lip , fender whatever it is you'd expect it to fit. If you buy cheap bodyparts fitting can be a bit of a job but usually the parts are at least useful.

                I'm posting this here because i want to know who else bought a r33 rear carbon wing from charles group buy and managed to mount it successfully. And if you did, how the heck did you manage it?

                First of all let me show you what an original wing blade looks like .



                and the other end of the blade



                now , if you were going to make a replica of that wing would you not at least take the dimensions of the holes and also count the number of holes ?

                here is what is in the carbon replica ... take note of the measurement between the holes !



                and the other end ....



                First off , did the other 2 holes get lost in shipping or is it likely the chinese dude who made the mould can't count past 2 ? I swear to god if the original had 4 friggin holes , make the repro with 4 FRIGGIN HOLES , and preferably install 4 captive nuts to make it possible to mount.

                So , after my initial disappointment i figured id try and fit it anyways , well the drivers side i managed to get 2 bolts into the wing but the other side i could only get one in , the rear one . the front hole is so far off the plate hides it completely .

                First off charles , who the heck checks this stuff out ? if it was made in toronto i wouldn't be this pissed because i'd just take it back and get you to have the monkeys make anotherone that fits, but after spending over $400 shipping for all this junk that isn't really feasable.

                I'm dreading the fitment of the rear diffuser , i checked the front lip out and there were no mounting holes in it at all which is probably a good thing because im sure as hell they would have been in the wrong places.

                So far its been a bit of a waste of over $2500 , yea i'm ******* pissed , charles please pm me about some sort of resolution unless of course im a complete tool and don't have the IQ required to mount something that takes 8 bolts with only 3 holes that line up!.....

                I appologise for coming off as an asshole but WTF .
                Last edited by cortexx; 05-14-2011, 09:24 PM.

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                • #9
                  sent you a pm!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by M13 View Post
                    you're supposed to run a hood latch pin anyways.

                    Just delete stock latch and run pins or use GTS hood latch body and pins.

                    GTS hood latch worked for my cf hood, but still fit wonky so I'm using aero catch pins and it fits much, much better. (also safer)
                    hey Mike, about the hood latches, I have some aero catch ones too but can't figure out how to install them properly/nicely. got any pictures of the install or if you used brackets to put them deeper into the hood? You can PM if you like.
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                    • #11
                      Also would like to see pictures! Ditching the hood latch assy!
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                      • #12
                        I "spoke" with Daryl at Right Drive about the D-Max hoods and he said they are ment for GTS models and that they require extensive mods for the GTRs. Any knock-offs molded from the originals would have the same issues...

                        As for the droop in the hood, the Gts hood that was on my GTR had the same low spot. Possible difference in hieght and curve in the fender between the two models?
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                        • #13
                          This is correct , the GTR fenders are lower than the GTS fenders as regards the profile and the only way to line them up (assuming the hinges and latch problems were overcome) would have had to be a block of rubber installed midway on top of the inner fender to push up the hood.

                          I could not fit it at all because the only way to get the front flush would have been to remove all frontal hardware and have the carbon of the hood rest on the rad support which obviously is not good because the 2 will rub against each other .

                          The wing is a clusterfuck , you cannot effectively install the missing captive nuts once the item has been moulded without substantially weakening the unit. I had BK Custom coating look at it and was told the only way to safely mount it to the car was to make an endcap that has 4 appropiate nuts in it and then bond it to each end of the wing to allow for the 4 mounting positions and adjustability of the wing angle.

                          He told me that to do this would cost more than buying a wing correctly made in the first place so this wing will probably not make it on my car because i do not want it ripping off and going through someone elses windshield on the highway! I'm sure the media will be all over RHD vehicles again if that happened.

                          Originally posted by BRN32 View Post
                          I "spoke" with Daryl at Right Drive about the D-Max hoods and he said they are ment for GTS models and that they require extensive mods for the GTRs. Any knock-offs molded from the originals would have the same issues...

                          As for the droop in the hood, the Gts hood that was on my GTR had the same low spot. Possible difference in hieght and curve in the fender between the two models?

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                          • #14
                            It's crazy how much JDM stuff is crap... Craftsmanship has gone downhill. Everyone wants a quick buck.
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                            • #15
                              Cortexx, Take this how you will, you may not be willing to risk the integrity of the carbon wing but here is my suggestion since i have experience drilling through carbon fiber now and it's not as bad as people think.

                              My suggestion would be to make a rubber mold or a stencil of the side of your stock wing. so that you accurately have the 4 stock holes. Than tape off the sides of the carbon unit (to prevent fraying) and drill 4 of your own holes than you know for sure will match up. Just start with a very very small drill bit and slowly work your way up. (i used 7 diff bit sizes just to make a hold for my winshield washer nozzles)

                              once you have the holes made. put a small amount of sealant around each hole to prevent moister and such from coming in. and then theoretically you should be good.

                              This is what I would do if I was in your situation. I have the mindset if something doesn't fit, what can I do to make it fit?

                              Hope this helps!
                              Originally posted by Paradis
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