Hard choice: R33 GTR or R33 GTST?

[StarStrickenSkyline7]

Lately I've been torn, I just cant choose between the R33 GTR or GTST. So to all you R33 guys which one is more reliable when stock or with 1 or 2 engine mods?

[r33_gtst]

exact same **** except
gtst - single turbo, rear wheel drive
gtr - twin turbo, all wheel drive

both capable and work well with bolt ons. just depends what you want
gtr has a better body while the gtst is like her anorexic sister

awd is good for track, circuit
rwd - drift

[S13Jordie]

GTS-T's are a lot simpler and easier to maintain In my opinion anyways

[RixR32]

Its the same dilemma as the R32's. I owned both r32 GTST, and GTR.

The above is correct. GTST is simpler, MUCH easier to work on, and cheaper to maintain.
But the power/handling potential goes up drastically with the GTR IMHO, so unless your looking for a drift machine or can't/don't do your own mechanical work I'd go GTR.

The one thing that makes the R33 comparison a bit more difficult is the RB25. It's better than the RB20 by far, hence all the RB25 into R32 swaps.

Rick

[r33_gtst]

i have bolt ons, tuning, stock long block and gaskets and make 492 rwhp
Compression is still 165-170 across the board
car hauls ass and i havent met my match on the road. pulled away from many cars.
the rb25 is an awesome motor, much more superior than the rb20
if you want fun get the gtst. if you want to consume your life and wallet with aspirations of being a track star.... go GTR

[Dragon Humper]

It doesnt matter what you choose....if it is a good one you will get many years of faithfull service, if its a lemon it will be headache after headache. GTRing it for 4 years now and never had an issue....some have gone broke.



Jon.

[StarStrickenSkyline7]

Thanks for the replies guys, I will probably be going with the GTR but keep posting I also like the idea of having a Drift car but I've heard that the RB26DETT can handle more power adders than the RB25DET (Heard this from some other Nissan forum) is this true?

[bobbo]

That's a loaded question. If done PROPERLY both are capable of excellent performance. You'll have to decide what you ultimate goals are and budget. Do you have access to a shop that can tune the car for you?

[StarStrickenSkyline7]

That's a loaded question. If done PROPERLY both are capable of excellent performance. You'll have to decide what you ultimate goals are and budget. Do you have access to a shop that can tune the car for you?

I have a lot of Mechanics near Ottawa that I'm unsure if they can install after-market parts or even tune my car. I'm pretty sure they can but I would have to check. in terms of my ultimate goal is to basically to keep it close to stock just because of my budget and my incompetence when it comes to replacing or adding parts. I would maybe take it out on the track once or twice a year and go for quick drives with it during the summer.

[bobbo]

Personally I would find a good, clean, unmolested GTR. You may want to consider importing one. DO NOT be afraid to spend a bit extra as you'll be saving money in the long run.
If you do basic up keep and don't bash it off the rev limiter I think you'll have a happy life together. GTRs have been proven to be a very reliable car if taken care of. Same as any other car.

[r33_gtst]

ive got 210,000km on my car, stock motor, makin good power
I am yet to see an rb25 making the same power as me
i owe it all to tuning and the knowledge of the tuner.
a good tune equals a good life
money should not be a concern with these cars. do it right the first time

[Skym]

The one thing that makes the R33 comparison a bit more difficult is the RB25. It's better than the RB20 by far, hence all the RB25 into R32 swaps.

Rick

the rb25 is an awesome motor, much more superior than the rb20
if you want fun get the gtst.

RB20DET has powered Skylines to win races, championships. It's based off the legendary Hakosuka GTR engine that has won alot of races as far as GTR's go. If want sound, transient response, reliability (less to go wrong like VVT, etc) RB20DET is the engine to buy.

RB25DET is more inbetween RB26, RB20, looks of RB20DET (intake plenum, etc), but similar capacity, hp of a RB26 with similar type of pistons (diameter, etc).

SR20DET, RB20DET are a better comparison (same capacity).

A GTR is like a GTS-T with more hp, torque, more grip. A modified RB26 feels similar to a big block at higher rpm, but mid, lower rpm are less than a big block. It feels no different characteristic wise to a RB20 in my opinion (more hp, torque with RB26).