Exhausts - Most stupid law ever

[cobrAA]

That was the picture of archaeic_bloke's old exhaust, and he sold it. :-P

I didn't take this pic from bloke. So maybe the new owner still has it.

[ruckusx2]

well i just got ticket in toronto for ileigal exaust but i got a cat,muffler so how it ileagle cause thay just look at it n say it is rofl!!this also happened in my parking lot where i drove my car up from underground to warm up and cop drove by herd the humming lol and stoped and give me ticket the funny part was i was in the parking lot where my car sleeps (so am i not alowed to start my car lol)it labled as a custom hot rod on my ins too so BIG WTF is going on with the law!

[Oakville]

^ lol

what are you going to do about it?

[ruckusx2]

im just going to court about it and see what happens im going to say i just had it e-tested 3 months ago n saftyed all passed no problems so what is ileagle about it ? ticket not 4 noise it is 4 size of muffler lol

[Oakville]

ahh, how big is the muffler?

[ruckusx2]

lol 3" i think hehe

[love_boost]

lol 3" i think hehe

say its a nismo edition skyline, and that from stock it had the 3" outlet.

if you have nothing better to say try it, the nismo exhaust spec is 3" i think. that is my excuse.

man cops here are so dumb, thye tell me my exhuast is illegal im just like oh really lol, its not it passed safety, no ticket to date.

[Skym]

I noticed in NZ for example (on certification website) that they have a DB test that determines if exhaust is too loud. If too loud, exhaust has to go to certifier after it's fixed and exhaust mufflers, pipe diameter, etc are measured and noted for that vehicle. Then it's legal.

Their certification system was made up by older folk who know their cars or build custom cars themselves. It means they can have custom cars, etc on the road and a plate on firewall saying the car meets legal requirements for suspension, exhaust, etc.

From videoclips I've seen, the cops just look at cert plate, the mods the car has and look for mods that are not on cert plate or in the cert computer system and measure ride height. If all is ok, let them go. If not they pink sticker the car which means it's not safe to drive on the road and the car can be driven home only and it has to be fixed, certifid, etc before pink sticker is removed from windscreen.

My advice is to buy a handheld DB tester and show evidence on paper that it's within the legal DB limits (legal DB limit is 95DB that most country's have), etc. It hopefully should save a trip to court.

DB tester -

http://www.emovendo.net/magnet/decibel-meter-digital-sound-level-meter-ar-824.html

To get to a legal DB level of under 95DB, exhaust needs at least 3 mufflers -

Catylitic convertor - Square muffler near rearwheels - rear muffler.

or for modified exhaust -

Coby (or Japanese made cat eliminator pipe with muffler built in) - Square muffler near rearwheels - rear cannon / N1 style of muffler.

A modified exhaust system like this drops sound levels to around 84db for RB20DET.

My interpretation of that Canadian law is you need the 3 mufflers in exhaust system. Every car would be different due amount of mufflers needed to bring DB levels down to legal limits.

Although someone the Government will listen to, needs to stepup and say to put a certification system in place. It should save alot of people from going to court.

[Andrewc]

http://vibrantperformance.com/catalo...1031_1053_1109

These can be your friend.

[ruckusx2]

i have this one http://www.nengun.com/kakimoto-racing/regu-06-r
the sound wasnt the probllem - it was the size of muffler that didnt bring out no guages or nothing just cause thay said it was ileagle it is :P.....my skyline is registered as a classis custom hot rod . these cops in toronto just think it a race car,,,but mine is a show car .

[Andrewc]

i'm referring to the look, those flat black mufflers are straight through and really aren't very quiet when you drive hard.

On a side note, why the heck is your car registered as a classic custom hot rod???
That's just asking for trouble when they run your plate.

[ruckusx2]

well i drive a buick century daily driver and i have little restrictions on my car like no shopping ,work..ect just to cruse in and insured as a classic custom hotrod i pay 700 a year ins & my car is insured for what it was appraized at.

[Andrewc]

So its insured as a hot rod, but its still registered as a Nissan skyline? I can understand that.
Anyways, like always in the history of cars. The flashier they look the more attention the cops are going to pay. You'll either have to accept that fact or have a fast car that looks stock.

[ruckusx2]

lol how can one cop say is fine and anouther one say it not r thay confused or somthing ? but if i go to court it will probly get dropped ... so if a judge said it ok ...why r cops saying it not ?? also i was on private property where i pay to park my car so im not alowed to start my ride where she is parked ?.gyeah ok .. ill just drive around with my car cover on it then .........rofl....this was just big b.s. that all !!thay had nothing else to do i guess

[Andrewc]

I don't think any cop has every single bit of the law memorized, so if they believe the car to have an illegal mod then they'll issue a ticket.
However, if your car is so loud that it brought the cops attention by just starting it up.
Then you might want to consider getting a resonator fitted before your muffler to quiet it down a little bit.