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  • #16
    Originally posted by falcon View Post
    that interior looks like it's from the 1990's.

    He looks to be fighting the car alot, but good on them. It will only spark more competition. Don't forget though, the ZR1 is Chevys 'high performance' Corvette, Nissan still has the V-Spec coming out.
    I've been saying that since all the nonsense comparasins started...this thing is two trim levels above the C6. The GT-R is the 3800lb base model with all of the luxury appointments...then there will be the VSpec (which is unofficially faster already) and then the Z-Tune...

    Anyone who directly compares these two cars is confused.

    I won't even start on the $50,000 price differential

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    • #17
      I've watch the video yesterday and do'nt get how they could do an "official" lap time and start the timing at the yellow yield sign and stop it when the corvette enters the pits... that shaves like a second
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      • #18
        Originally posted by 32typeM View Post
        Apparently, the ZR-1 would have run faster if it wasn't in a headwind on the long straightaway. Still, the cars are of near equal weight, and the Corvette needed 200-something extra horsepower to beat the GT-R BASE MODEL by a second?
        ZR1 = 3350 - pounds
        GTR = 3830 - pounds

        How is that near equal weight?

        Lighter V-Spec will murder this thing. And anything less than a well-experienced driver would b in the wall driving that ZR1 in a heartbeat. You see the lift over those bumps?

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        • #19
          meh,


          theres only one saying thatll take care of this


          ....theres no replacment for displacment.........

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          • #20
            Originally posted by klys View Post
            I've watch the video yesterday and do'nt get how they could do an "official" lap time and start the timing at the yellow yield sign and stop it when the corvette enters the pits... that shaves like a second
            the GTR laptime is done similararly.

            I think personally from watching the video 1 of two things is true:
            either a: that ZR-1 lap was BALLS out and not easily repeatable.

            or b: the ZR-1 lap needs a better driver.

            I personally think it's B, he's not shifting consistantly and GM has said that it was an engineer driving, not a hired gun. Let's see what it can do with ron fellows behind the wheel, I have a feeling there's still several seconds on the table with that car.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by ARC240 View Post
              ...The GTR is better sounding (IMO)...


              man, you must be smoking the good stuff. The GTR sounds horrible! Everyone says it does!

              and the ZR-1 sounds pretty good. It's no 454 but hey, it's pretty close. Maybe with a bit of supercharger whine it would sound even better.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Terrh View Post
                man, you must be smoking the good stuff. The GTR sounds horrible! Everyone says it does!

                and the ZR-1 sounds pretty good. It's no 454 but hey, it's pretty close. Maybe with a bit of supercharger whine it would sound even better.
                Um...it's a differing opinion, it sounds nowhere near as good as the older Skylines, but still isn't horrible (IMO). The GTR almost sounds like a hyped-up 350Z lol, I'd rather listen to the GTR than the ZR-1, call me crazy, but again it's a differing opinion. Again, I'd rather have the GTR...
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                • #23
                  Ya the new GTR is too quiet. But its a grown-up GT car now and the tuned exhausts will solve that.

                  Personally, I'd take the GTR over that ZR1 in a second since its better bang for the buck. The ZR1 is waaaay too much car for me even though I have a good amount of track experience. My lap times would be way better in the GTR and in anything less than ideal conditions, the GTR would edge the ZR1 out with the advanced traction.

                  So many of these Vettes will be written off by novices LOL.

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                  • #24
                    ZR1 vs GTR

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ARC240 View Post
                      It's kind of funny because this ZR-1 is Chevrolet's most prized model of Corvette lol, the GTR was a base model, now that the V-Spec is coming along in developments...that car will be a car no ZR-1 can touch 8)
                      LMAO......

                      I appologize, as I have probably said a few dumg things in my time but,

                      THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER READ.

                      GT-R...$80,000 Base Model eh ? ....right, and the Mclaren F1 is just a base model - IN COMPARISON TO A LeMANS CAR !

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                      • #26
                        Sorry....I'm not done. I have listened to this and read this long enough and if I don't speak up, I simply won't forgive myself.....

                        Here's how to solve this:
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                        Send BOTH cars to the 'Ring, on the same day, on the SAME RUBBER (or atleast 'production' rubber this time ...NISSAN), starting from the SAME position, WITHOUT A ROLL - NISSAN.......then see which 'Big Dog' eats.....

                        If the ZR-1 has anything to fear.......it will be when Lingenfelter get's a hold of it......NOT from the GT-R Spec 7, 12, 69 or other.

                        Don't kid yourself....the AWD, in a racing system helped when they couldn't make power. At the end of the day REAL RACE CARS are powered by 2 wheels.

                        Done and Done.

                        ps. I am a PROUD R32 GT-R owner.......I just don't live with my head up my @ss suffering from a deadly case of Nissan-@ssitus.

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                        • #27
                          Don't kid yourself....the AWD, in a racing system helped when they couldn't make power. At the end of the day REAL RACE CARS are powered by 2 wheels.
                          TRUE. And yes I am one of those people. But I think we can all admit that in one way or another that ATESSA takes a load and needed skill level off any driver! Although I pride Skylines past of getting kicked out of racing series you have to admit that this is alot like F1 limiting technology. Nobody wants to watch a few robots race around a track!

                          Sorry Skyline Gods :bow down:
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                          • #28
                            why do people argue about which car is faster then the other one. ouuuu the 911 does a 1/4 in 11.6 , oh ya my dads new car will do it in 11.5 it's soooooo much faster and better.

                            it's a waste of time.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JD74 View Post
                              LMAO......

                              I appologize, as I have probably said a few dumg things in my time but,

                              THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER READ.

                              GT-R...$80,000 Base Model eh ? ....right, and the Mclaren F1 is just a base model - IN COMPARISON TO A LeMANS CAR !
                              ^ Put it any way you like... the GTR is STILL a base model, whereas the ZR1 has a vast amount of manufacturer added hop-ups. On the track, they were comparing the GTR (a car that is all original, and was racing exactly the way it was first designed) to a ZR1 (which has a slue of manufacturer performance add-ons from the standard Corvette). You have to pay how much for a ZR1 compared to a GTR??? Pound for pound, the GTR is a better bang-for-buck car and is still equally as fast IMO, they both have their ups and downs. Wait until the V-Spec comes out. I think it'd be more fair to race the GTR V-Spec against a ZR1 Corvette, no stupidity there, I just want to see how one does against another. The ZR1 isn't ugly to look at at all, it still is equally as quick and it would be a nice car to have. It really comes down to what you want in the end...all of the oppinions on here are personal preferences.

                              Originally posted by JD74 View Post
                              Sorry....I'm not done. I have listened to this and read this long enough and if I don't speak up, I simply won't forgive myself.....

                              Here's how to solve this:
                              -----------------------
                              Send BOTH cars to the 'Ring, on the same day, on the SAME RUBBER (or atleast 'production' rubber this time ...NISSAN), starting from the SAME position, WITHOUT A ROLL - NISSAN.......then see which 'Big Dog' eats.....

                              If the ZR-1 has anything to fear.......it will be when Lingenfelter get's a hold of it......NOT from the GT-R Spec 7, 12, 69 or other.

                              Don't kid yourself....the AWD, in a racing system helped when they couldn't make power. At the end of the day REAL RACE CARS are powered by 2 wheels.

                              Done and Done.
                              ^ What you have said here is very true...I completely agree.
                              1992 NISSAN 240SX - RB20DET POWER
                              1990 NISSAN 300ZX - 2+2

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                              • #30
                                ZR-1 is the only corvette I would consider. I'd normally only go for a viper if it were an american choice. The new GTR is more of an automatic luxury sport golf cart and the ZR1 is a pure race car. When I heard the new GTR was automatic a little skyline love died in me... Maybe someday we won't even have to steer the race cars!!
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