who are you going to vote for?

[cschepp]

I won't be voting. I have a very sour taste in my mouth about the government and how they manage our country so fuckkk them! Spend our hard earn dollars on themselves on stupid shhit instead of fixing roads and putting the money into something useful. Once again fuuuccckkk the government and everything that has to do with them!

[TheyKilledKenny]

Typically the I am correct in the way I categorize the parties. What you fail to mention is that both Mulroney and Harper have been in power during recessions. People seem to forget how the liberals ran our economy into the ground in the late 80s and early 90s. Our country has been dominated my Liberal rule for the last 50 years by the likes of Trudeau. Only after the Liberals hammer us with no lube does the greater populace of Ontario finally start voting for Conservatives, thus why both the Mulroney and Harper governments came to be. You like to bring up these "watch dog" like scenarios about how the Conservatives are so corrupt, well Ill give you that basically all governments are corrupt. The reason you have so many examples of "possible" Harper mishaps is because of the new transparency of the government. Not only has the government not operated under a cloak and dagger style as the Liberals did for 40 years, but the evolution of the internet is at a totally different state then it was even 8-9 years ago when the Liberals were calling the shots. Think about all the Liberal indiscretions that werent published in the paper that we missed out on because the internet was non existent or still in its infancy. As far as I know most of the accusations against the Harper government were not printed either.

The sponsorship scandal investigation commission had a cost of 14 million...just the commission to look into the waste of public funds. I would dare to speculate that the actual numbers are in the hundreds of millions, it claims 3 million but who knows?

[cschepp]

I'm thinking a little more than 3 mill! That's why I'm so mad! There are only very few benefits of being under the Canadian government and mainly it's our health system. Other than that I can't agree with much. I doubt I'll ever vote again

[A18]

http://shitharperdid.com/ pretty good for a laugh
Harper meme http://memegenerator.net/Scumbag-Steven-Harper

For more Harper memes jsut google "harper meme" or "scumbag harper"

[TheyKilledKenny]

Supposedly it was 3.75 million but they had to pay back 1 million. Who knows if more of this went on in the past undetected. Im not a Conservative drum thumper by any means. I actually vote Liberal provincially because the Albertan Tories have been in power for 40 years (like federal Grits) and think they can do whatever they wish without consequence.

[Shadao]

my party no longer exists so i have no one to vote for...

before the reform and pc party merged to form the modern day con's the pc on paper had the best plan... move foreward but do so carefully, conservatively...

while i support crime fighting, many of todays laws or by laws are not representative of todays times, look at marijuana laws as an example... and its no wonder that the conservatives want to build super huge prisons...

every level of gov't is grossly out of touch with what the populace wants... recently in my local area we held a vote regarding building a new arena to accomidate our local hockey teams(i live in the koots no jr a team in my town, only jr b) the vote was NO with 80% of voters voting no, our city council was completly astonished...

when gov;t workers are being paid ALOT its not right, why should they make more money becuase they are working for the gov't? why not just pay them what everyone else in there respective feild gets(i know some jobs make -/+ but most make more alot more) and then give those people a tax break for serving our country...

as for people who are higher up, senate, parliament, etc etc they all need to make ALOT less, they make enough money they dont care about issues, long ago are the times that people ran for office to make things better for the people, along the way those people who were supposed to make things better for everyone ended up skiming from the top and made things really good for themselves...

cut backs need to be made, but it isnt to our services... no its needing to be made to our public servants wages... we elect these people, right now we are interviewing them seeing who is best for the job, we are the employers who employ the harpers, the ignatiefs the laytons... the job we are hiring for isnt easy, it takes alot of gumption to try and run a country... i for one am sick of it... there is more banter about him and her and this and that than there is about credentials... i want transparency, i want answers, and accountability...

who am i gonna vote for?

no damn clue... maybe i will toss the vote away at the communist party again like last time... he was a mere 6000 votes shy of getting a seat, he came in 3rd in my area it was ndp con comm then lib and green... my vote wont mater much anyways this area is and always has been NDP...

they really need to add " i vote for no one as there is no one i have confidence in"

[Snake556]

Typically the I am correct in the way I categorize the parties. What you fail to mention is that both Mulroney and Harper have been in power during recessions. People seem to forget how the liberals ran our economy into the ground in the late 80s and early 90s. Our country has been dominated my Liberal rule for the last 50 years by the likes of Trudeau. Only after the Liberals hammer us with no lube does the greater populace of Ontario finally start voting for Conservatives, thus why both the Mulroney and Harper governments came to be. You like to bring up these "watch dog" like scenarios about how the Conservatives are so corrupt, well Ill give you that basically all governments are corrupt. The reason you have so many examples of "possible" Harper mishaps is because of the new transparency of the government. Not only has the government not operated under a cloak and dagger style as the Liberals did for 40 years, but the evolution of the internet is at a totally different state then it was even 8-9 years ago when the Liberals were calling the shots. Think about all the Liberal indiscretions that werent published in the paper that we missed out on because the internet was non existent or still in its infancy. As far as I know most of the accusations against the Harper government were not printed either.

The sponsorship scandal investigation commission had a cost of 14 million...just the commission to look into the waste of public funds. I would dare to speculate that the actual numbers are in the hundreds of millions, it claims 3 million but who knows?

Let's not forget when the Liberals cancelled that military order for helicopters. Only cost us something around $500 mil. in cancellation fees. They want to do that now too with the new F35s we need. Yes need. CF18s are fantastic, but the airframe is ridiculously old, and needs replacing. It's far more expensive to maintain them...

But hey, why not cancel the order and pay a few billion, right?

[RABBIT]

NDP!
i bleed orange,
Olivia Chow is my main squeeze.

[Tony-R32]

What about the fail that was the gun registry? All it did was cost Canadians money Yet after billions spent, there is still nothing to show for it? Which was implemented by Chretien and the liberals.

Speaking of Chretien, he blew through money like it was falling off tree's

In fact if you go back even further, starting with Trudeau, the liberals are notorious for spending.

[raijin-xiii]

I won't be voting. I have a very sour taste in my mouth about the government and how they manage our country so fuckkk them! Spend our hard earn dollars on themselves on stupid shhit instead of fixing roads and putting the money into something useful. Once again fuuuccckkk the government and everything that has to do with them!

NOTE:

ANYONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY AND CHOOSES NOT TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY HATE ALL CANDIDATES, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO SHOW YOUR DISGUST:

Go to the polling stations and do everything as if you were going to vote. Get your ballot and instead of checking a box, PUT A BIG "X" THROUGH THE THING. This is called "spoiling the ballot." If lots of people do this, it really sends a message to the government that their **** stinks and no one running is good for the country.

AGAIN: IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR ANYONE, PLEASE GO SPOIL YOUR BALLOT.

[Tony-R32]

NOTE:

ANYONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY AND CHOOSES NOT TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY HATE ALL CANDIDATES, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO SHOW YOUR DISGUST:

Go to the polling stations and do everything as if you were going to vote. Get your ballot and instead of checking a box, PUT A BIG "X" THROUGH THE THING. This is called "spoiling the ballot." If lots of people do this, it really sends a message to the government that their **** stinks and no one running is good for the country.

AGAIN: IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR ANYONE, PLEASE GO SPOIL YOUR BALLOT.

Agreed, not voting is worse than choosing any of the evils.

[cortexx]

The reason for the massive defecit at the moment is because of all the stimulus packages that have been implemented to cushion Canada's unemployment and the effects of the recession which is a world wide recession not a canadian government problem , please do not blame the conservatives for this, and Harper also made it known that the spending would cause this deficit , it's not a surprise.

As for the backgorund of the party members , i don't give a crap what their background is along as they can do the job , and to be honest for the job they have to do , loss of personal privacy and the amount of crap that politicians get blamed for by uneducated people , they don't in my opinion get paid enough. If the position of PM paid $3m- $4m a year you would get someone like Dave Dodge or someone else with his abilities to run the country.

BUT ya know the old saying , if you pay peanuts you get monkeys!

And like others have said , forcing a general election at the moment wasn't the most optimal thing to do , and it has wasted far more money than the G20 summit. Who do you have to blame for this ? thats right , the liberals - same guys that decided to go ahead and implement HST in a way that totally screwed over the average Joe in Ontario . McGuinty is hated so much for that reason alone.

[aN4rk1]

NOTE:

ANYONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY AND CHOOSES NOT TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY HATE ALL CANDIDATES, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO SHOW YOUR DISGUST:

Go to the polling stations and do everything as if you were going to vote. Get your ballot and instead of checking a box, PUT A BIG "X" THROUGH THE THING. This is called "spoiling the ballot." If lots of people do this, it really sends a message to the government that their **** stinks and no one running is good for the country.

AGAIN: IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR ANYONE, PLEASE GO SPOIL YOUR BALLOT.

+1 On this. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DO THIS if you are not going to vote.

Okay, let's try this again.
We have the largest deficit in Canadian history, because of the spend spend spend Harper Conservatives. Harper's Cons are NOT fiscally conservative. I will repeat, they are NOT fiscally conservative. They are slimy to wear the "conservative" name but their actions do not fit with their actions. If you're old enough to remember the Reform party, that is what they are. Look beyond the partisan party line & compare the facts. The Liberals gave us a $16 BILLION SURPLUS. That was "rainy day" money. And where did it go? Harper spent it all in a little over a year. Once again, this was BEFORE the recession even hit.

If you are hating on the Liberals for being "tax, spend (and save)", you should realize that Harper's method of "borrow (at high interest) and spend" is much worse. Canada now has a structural deficit BECAUSE of Harper. If he gets a majority govt, this spending will continue until Canada is in the same place as the US is now. This is his plan. Is that something you want to happen? Throughout Canadian history, Conservative govt's have raked up the deficits, while the Liberals are forced to clean up the mess. And so they raise taxes (slightly), tighten finances & are forced to cut funding. Harper cuts funding from social programs & taxes income trusts to give more money to his Big Business buddies. And if he continues spending the first thing to go will be healthcare. So that 30% tax you pay now? Add whatever health costs you may have to that.

Also, cutting corporate tax rates does not promote business, it does not create more jobs & it does not strengthen the industry. Look at Ireland for an example of what happens when you bottom out corporate tax rates (hint: it isn't pretty). Harper is a slave to Big Oil+Big Business at no benefit to the tax payer.

Okay, sponsorship scandal. 14 Million dollar scam at the hands of the Liberals. Horrid! Terrible! And they lost their power as a punishment for that.
To compare, the Conservatives spent $133 MILLION in partisan advertising in one year. Yes, taxpayer money. What about Tony Clement's G8 spending scandal? $50 Million there. Or what about the $1.9 Billion for the G20? I could go on, but I have a feeling I should keep it short so you can understand that compared to the other options, Harper's Cons are the ONLY evil.

(ps: I have links, articles, etc. to back up all of these points, if you'd like to see them just let me know).


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I want THIS MAN IN POWER!!

Seriously though, Liberal.

[quadracer111]

Green party!!

lulz, screw politics.

Dictatorship is where its at.


(not srs)

[Tony-R32]

And like others have said , forcing a general election at the moment wasn't the most optimal thing to do , and it has wasted far more money than the G20 summit. Who do you have to blame for this ? thats right , the liberals - same guys that decided to go ahead and implement HST in a way that totally screwed over the average Joe in Ontario . McGuinty is hated so much for that reason alone.

I was going to post this, as someone said earlier in the thread that it was the conservatives calling the election, but wasn't completely sure.

I remember listening to CJOB and they were all puzzled as to why the liberals/ndp were calling for an election at this time.