It's just a little turbo

[DJ]

Hey buddy did you go all the way up to 2000 grit?
Looks like a "brushed aluminium" look.

Next thing you should do is go buy some metal polish , you can get some cheaper ones from Crappy Tire .Next step is apply that to the areas that you want polished and buff the crap out of it,you can do it by hand but you'll get a better shine with a buffer bit on a drill.Trust me it will turnout alot better.I know how long it takes to polish those and it really sucks!Good job buddy

[leeaspin]

Plenum is finished polished and runners painted...heres a pic let me know what you guys think

[leeaspin]

haha... that must be one of the best posts i've read in a while.

ps. it's a beautiful build and I've learned much from your e-debate. Keep up the good work

thanks man...it'll be good next year when I have my power fc and some yellow jacket coil packs too...get a good tune and hopefully it will do well... very excited

[leeaspin]

stopped by boost lee's house the other day and made fun of him for not running 6 meth nozzles, then we got into a minor fist fight where he used a drunken master style on me but i was able to hold my ground.

his plenum is coming along nicely, looked like he burnt off 700 dremmel bits and 12 kilometers of sandpaper but it should look mint when hes done. i also farted in his small workshop and we both hated it.
it will be nice to see non flaked off oem paint.

Dont confuse me with jackie chan.....I am the master of all Kung Fu....

As for the sand paper and dremmel bits....yeah a lot has bin used polishing this plenum....one hell of a job I tell ya!

[supguyex]

haha... that must be one of the best posts i've read in a while.

ps. it's a beautiful build and I've learned much from your e-debate. Keep up the good work

[agm]

stopped by boost lee's house the other day and made fun of him for not running 6 meth nozzles, then we got into a minor fist fight where he used a drunken master style on me but i was able to hold my ground.

his plenum is coming along nicely, looked like he burnt off 700 dremmel bits and 12 kilometers of sandpaper but it should look mint when hes done. i also farted in his small workshop and we both hated it.
it will be nice to see non flaked off oem paint.

[leeaspin]

Finally finished the full install of the meth kit...wire tucked and LED light is in....couple pictures of where I put my LED light to show the meth is working







The little piece of plastic taken out of a $1 pair of sunglasses installed underneath the cruise control light in the center of the cluster....couldnt get an optimal picture of the LED working cuz the lighting was all wack...will have one when car is off the stands and outside

[leeaspin]

Aquamist is great but not everyone can afford it. By that I mean, if you have a budget build, why go for some expensive w/m system then. You're car is only as strong as it's weakest part

About the 2 nozzles, you could always cap them off after drilling until you need them. now about the 2 nozzles, who's to say they're even in the correct position? If it's not perfect according to flow path, you could be dumping more into the back OR from cylinder. It's not a "Eye it up and go" kinda thing.

Totally agree with the Eye it up and go" kinda thing.....if there is specifcs on where to insert another nozzel into the plenum and tested to prove that it is better and safer way I will think about it! But seeing as how there is the possibility of too much meth going to the last 3 cylinders without proper mounting of jets I would rather stay with one...If it isnt EXACTLY equal within all cylinders im not too concered because im not relying on it as much as some people are.

This debate has brought up a lot of great ideas for a very high horsepower to even a small hp car....meth can be used as safety or for running boost off the f'ing charts...very valuable info for all people thinking about running meth

[NismoS-tune]

Aquamist is great but not everyone can afford it. By that I mean, if you have a budget build, why go for some expensive w/m system then. You're car is only as strong as it's weakest part

About the 2 nozzles, you could always cap them off after drilling until you need them. now about the 2 nozzles, who's to say they're even in the correct position? If it's not perfect according to flow path, you could be dumping more into the back OR from cylinder. It's not a "Eye it up and go" kinda thing.

[evilgtr]

Super-dude you touched a very important fact in regards to one or 6 injectors. Both kits use a different delivery system. Andrew in running the AEM kit similar to lee's and he runs 2 injectors, 1 per 3 cylinders and he is pushing over 650whp on a mustang dyno with no issues of leaning out or detonating in the rear cylinders. The AEM I would personally say is the inferior meth setup compared to the Aquamist but still works fine. because it runs a variable voltage pump its hard to get accurate delivery of meth each time everytime and if a injector clogs or becomes partially plugged I dont believe it has anything to make the driver aware ? please let me know if it does ? The Aquamist kit like you mentioned above uses pulse width technology so like you said is essentially a water/meth injector so the delivery method is alot more precise.

Lee said he is using it for a safety more then a power additive so Im sure 1 will be fine, my question is if you already have the plenum off - and we all agree that is a c**t of a job - then why not run 2 nozzles like the high hp GTR guys are doing ? its a 20 minute job to drill and tap to nozzles into the plenum then if you need them in the future its done.

Cheers

[Super_Dude]

The point I'm trying to make is that direct port meth is the absolute best way to get even distribution. Anyone who a thing or two about meth will agree. I consulted a lot of meth experts and actually switched from a single nozzle aem setup to the direct port HFS-6. Arguing that there is a reliability issue with 6 jets is silly. It's just a port nothing fancy. If you really believe that switch out your x6 fuel injectors and just get a couple huge ones to improve "reliability".

About the unequal length of the lines, There is only liquid in the lines not gases. When you apply pressure and all the lines are full the all spray at the same time. I even tested this when I installed my kit so that is a mute point. My kit is also PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) which means it acts like an injector not just a pump that increases pressure (HFS-6 FTW)

I'm not saying that running 1 or 2 jets is a bad idea. I'm just saying it's not the best idea. If you want the full benefits of water/meth than direct port is your best option.

Sorry for going of topic.

Anyone who wants to run water/meth should do a lot of home work

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/vbulletin/ is a good place to start.

[agm]

sounds shady unless you know the flow characteristics inside the plenum to dictate exact 2 nozzle placement. i'd rather use 6 nozzles in that case.
with it before the TB and after the IC, at least you know its going into suspension with the air charge which is already moving in that direction to all 6 cylinders.

which also cools the IC pipe and whole plenum on its way in. if your not getting meth to a cylinder--you're not getting correct air to that cylinder either so it will be making less power than the other cylinders with meth injection or not.
in which case you might wanna stay away from a dry nitrous system aswell unless you have some EGT probes in each cylinder to get a heads up on the random AFR's in each cylinder.

especially on a oem turbocharged car, i am not naive enough to believe that nissan didnt spend enough R&D on the intake plenum such that it doesnt flow equal to each cylinder....

[DJ]

There is one set up I like from a member on this forum i think its "crzyone"'s gtr they installed two jets under the manifold I belive the first at an angle that will spray to the first 3 cylinders and the second shooting to the last 3

[leeaspin]

Pretty sure this is a skyline forum....in regards to this an evo is not even remotely relevant to this subject.....so what if the post that you showed here in this link has wack stuff all over the piston in cyl #1, obviously a way bigger issue than just meth....its not a nissan and serves no purpose to me in persuation to get me to run 1-6 nozzels...

If this debate goes on there has to be clear and I mean CLEAR information including full documentation on a NISSAN that improper flow has tampered with the motor....and if you wana keep arguing about how many nozzels to run please start your own thread about it in the tech section or discussion session.

Like agm posted if i'm building a competition car that is getting torn apart frequently to be able to see the results and what needs to be changed then maybe I would be running more nozzels....but for now because it is for extra safety there is no reason to have 1 for every cylinder

[agm]

i read the first 6 pages of that thread and i used to respect mike from AWD more than i do now.