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    like title says my car runs hella lean at idle and pops. <like a misfire pop

    now ive got all new spark plugs gapped to 0.8mm
    ordered a new fuel pump. but im starting to doubt thats the issue since its ok at throttle.(still lean tho) like 18+:1 a/f at idle. and at throttle its 15-17:1 a/f

    any ideas? see my build in gtr projects Project Mexi Skyrine
    RB25 Powered RWD GT-R

    Owner for Turtle Garage Hicas Delete Systems

  • #2
    vacuum leak.

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    • #3
      everyone keeps saying this but i have no idea where a vaccum leak could be. ive looked over everything.

      what should it be for vaccum at idle? my aem gauge says 22. and stays a consistant 22.
      RB25 Powered RWD GT-R

      Owner for Turtle Garage Hicas Delete Systems

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      • #4
        too much air, or not enough fuel.

        vacuum leak will cause it to run richer i believe.
        GTRC-OG

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        • #5
          I would try the fuel filter first..... Then abit of propane from a "Unlit" torch. Stick it in around the intake manifold, if it idles up... you found your leak.... A vacuum leak will cause a high idle, as well as surging in some cases as the ECU tries to correct it...

          Just my 2 cents

          Edit* my AEM truboost gives a -19 at idle, as does my good friends GTR
          Last edited by RhdHybrid; 05-26-2011, 11:03 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RhdHybrid View Post
            I would try the fuel filter first..... Then abit of propane from a "Unlit" torch. Stick it in around the intake manifold, if it idles up... you found your leak.... A vacuum leak will cause a high idle, as well as surging in some cases as the ECU tries to correct it...

            Just my 2 cents

            Edit* my AEM truboost gives a -19 at idle, as does my good friends GTR
            haha too much vaccum? i wonder how that is possible.

            i tried turning down my idle screw therefore reducing air but it starts to run like poop.

            and btw i got a new fuel filter already.
            Last edited by RWD_GTR; 05-27-2011, 02:43 AM.
            RB25 Powered RWD GT-R

            Owner for Turtle Garage Hicas Delete Systems

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            • #7
              Vac at -22... could be guage calibration off or we are taking our vac/boost source from different locations. Maybe you have a bad fuel pressure reg.... or maybe you have a ground broke and your injectors are having a voltage loss, this would be the same as large injectors with a long latency. But check to make sure you are grounding good.

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              • #8
                pressure test yo system son

                and check your maf voltage output
                oh hai!

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                • #9
                  ok. it cannot be a vaccum leak. i started it up and -22 vaccum and 13.5:1 afr. and it idled like a champ. then slowly as it warmed up it got worse and worse til it hit 18 then i shut it down.

                  if it was a vaccum leak it would be bad the entire time.

                  hopefully when i get my walbro that fixes the issue but i highly doubt it.

                  i remember hearing once that a car runs like crap with a bad temp sensor. but that shouldnt make it lean
                  Last edited by RWD_GTR; 05-28-2011, 07:19 PM.
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                  Owner for Turtle Garage Hicas Delete Systems

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                  • #10
                    had the exact scenario after a clutch master booster replacement.... running lean A/F's were off the scale....
                    A/F's were fine when on throttle
                    forgot the O-ring between the booster and master causing vacuum leak

                    everything fine and dandy once o-ring was installed...
                    Last edited by kengeroo; 05-28-2011, 11:34 PM.

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                    • #11
                      i just dont understand how a vaccum leak would make it run lean. i got quite a few things to try. im thinkin pull off all vaccum lines and see if its better.
                      RB25 Powered RWD GT-R

                      Owner for Turtle Garage Hicas Delete Systems

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                      • #12
                        18-19 way too lean !!! 14-15 at idle is around perfect then bettween 10.7 till 11.9 on trottel !!

                        thats a perfect af


                        865 whp RB32 , R32 GTR , THE LUCKY GTR *SUMMER DRAG BEAST*
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                        • #13
                          ^thanks for that..............

                          it does not have vaccum leaks.

                          only things it can be now is wiring,fuel pump,sensor/sensors.
                          RB25 Powered RWD GT-R

                          Owner for Turtle Garage Hicas Delete Systems

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                          • #14
                            maybe your guage is screwed
                            gtr garage queen...anybody seen my wallet?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by leeaspin View Post
                              maybe your guage is screwed
                              You could be pulling air in after the maf somewhere. Have you checked the gaskets on the turbos suction side?

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