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  • Torque Split Controller - Initial impressions

    My torque split controller arrived yesterday & I fitted it this morning.

    Very good mod! I think the best way to describe the feel is to describe how the car handles with stock torque split controls, and then overlay the new response.

    My car is typically pretty tail happy during throttle roll-on in corners. (Like every R32 I expect!) Typical behaviour in the dry is for the tail to kick out in a progressive, controlled manner. It doesn't kick out as far as my Mustang would have in similar conditions as the front wheels do get some torque allocated as wheel slip increases, but it's definately out there. Very confidence inspiring, but somewhat sideways. The tail kicks out a lot more a lower speed corners as torque at the wheels is substantially higher than on fast sweepers.

    There are a few conditions where understeer happens. The one I can describe for you is a slight downhill, nice pavement, 270 degree corner, decreasing radius, and flatter than most. I don't typically carry much speed into this corner (common sense?), but when I can see the coast is clear I'll step into it fairly hard. As the radius tightens up I'm either coasting or rolling throttle on, depending on speed. The car will understeer slightly in either condition.

    There's a 90 degree increasing radius RH corner I like as well. Stepping into it on this one in 3rd gear is a good way to kick the tail out from about 100 to 130 km/hr. It comes back in as you run out of torque, but a comfortable exit speed is around 150 km/hr. This was the first real test for my new TSC. It's adjustable from 0 to 10. 0 being no attenuation of the lateral accellerometer, and 10 being full annenuation. The chap who builds them suggested 6 for dry conditions, so I started at 6.

    I accellerated into the fast sweeper rolling throttle on enough to kick the tail out under normal circumstances. Nothing. Except solid accelleration! I'm not sure what would happen if I gave it WOT without the stock setup, but I think the tail would just hang out a bit further. At '6' on the TSC, the car stayed planted no matter what I did. (I now understand the warning in the installation instructions. Something like, 'Caution, this device does NOT make it impossible to crash your car.') Anyhow, WOT to the top of 3rd gear and I couldn't wipe the grin off my face. Not that kicking the tail out isn't fun, it's just that much MORE fun to be able to 'program' the car's response to throttle in the corners!

    I gave it a good workout on some slower corners and the car remained neutral at 2nd gear cornering traction limits as well. Power understeer only became evident on the decreasing radius 270 degree decreasing radius, and that might have been because I carried a fair bit more speed into the tight part of the corner! :P

    Apparently '9' is a good setting for wet track conditions.

    I'm pretty impressed so far!

    Cheers,
    Dan
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  • #2
    Did you get the one from gtr.co.uk or the one from SAU?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jugs
      Did you get the one from gtr.co.uk or the one from SAU?
      gtr.co.uk.

      Mounted in the centre console.
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      • #4
        Cool, how was the install?
        I wonder why more people here don't have it?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jugs
          Cool, how was the install?
          I wonder why more people here don't have it?
          30 min to install. Just remove the centre console hook up some power from the lighter, and splice into the lateral g sensor output wire.

          Anyone who drives an R32 with this mod will want one. Except the drifters.

          R33 and R34 handle more like this already, but are still not adjustable.
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          • #6
            I am glad it got some "immediate" use

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kaane
              I am glad it got some "immediate" use
              It's just what I was expecting. Thanks!
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              • #8
                have you tried the settings much lower like at 1 or 2? sideways in a gtr- irrisponsible bu soo much fun!
                92 GTR

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                • #9
                  I found anything above 5 caused alot of understeer for me. I'm actually quite happy at 0 because I'm used to mustangs and tail happy cars. At 10, it was pointless to corner fast, like a cobalt SS or SRT 4, just a waste of trying. I have a different TSC than you but it's the same idea. I leave it at 4 and it's a good balance at any speed in heavy corners. I have an OEM front diff so I don't want to launch it unless it's at 0, even then it could be bad. My new diff is a Nismo unit. What did you upgrade to Dan?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bruizer View Post
                    What did you upgrade to Dan?
                    I'm still running an OEM front diff. I don't lauch hard or shock the drive train - in my world smooth is fast... I think it'll hang together fine.

                    Cheers,
                    Dan
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                    • #11
                      im looking at the one here :


                      RHDJapan offers the best quality performance parts made in Japan including Nismo, Mugen, Defi, Spoon, Cusco, Tomei, HKS and other JDM brands.


                      does yours lookin like this one? or is it another one, could you post a picture of it plz?
                      Check out my RB30 build at
                      http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-pro...b30-build.html

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                      • #12
                        Just out of curiousity this allows you to set a max of 10 kg/ of torque to the front, or just does it lock it at 10 to the front no matter what you do?

                        Or do you need a grid dancer to set maximums.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kelaog View Post
                          Just out of curiousity this allows you to set a max of 10 kg/ of torque to the front, or just does it lock it at 10 to the front no matter what you do?

                          Or do you need a grid dancer to set maximums.
                          you need a ts dancer or manual set up
                          this controller will not allow you to do presets

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                          • #14
                            Mine looks like this.


                            This TSC is intended for tweaking cornering balance, not drag racing. Limiting torque to the front is best done with a Grid Dancer or similar unit.

                            One more thing on front torque limits... The front torque gauge has torque units on it, but it _really_ displays transfer case clutch actuation pressure. (Hydraulic pressure in actuator that engages the clutch pack) The actual torque delivered will depend on effective friction coefficient, actuation
                            pressure AND available traction.

                            Just so everyone knows...

                            Dan
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                            • #15
                              Dan,
                              I'm assuming this is the "Skylab" model they have listed.
                              How much was the shipping & how long did it take to arrive.

                              I think i'd like this mod for my touge runs.

                              Jason

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