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    Those driving right feeling wronged
    PETER MCCABE FOR THE TORONTO STAR
    Quebec's insurance board has banned registration of right-hand-drive cars, citing safety concerns. Montrealer Donovan Weekes, who owns an RHD, says it's not the cars that are to blame, it's the drivers who gawk at them.
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    Owners angry as Quebec halts new registrations of right-hand-drive cars, citing safety concerns
    May 30, 2009 04:30 AM
    Andrew Chung
    QUEBEC BUREAU CHIEF

    MONTREAL – Last autumn Quebec drivers grumbled about being forced to buy winter tires. Lately, motorcyclists have been blocking roads over runaway fees.

    Now it's specialty car enthusiasts feeling the wrath of a provincial government on a mission to rein in its roadways and their associated costs.

    Quebec, claiming right-hand-drive cars are dangerous, has quietly imposed a moratorium on the increasingly popular vehicles by prohibiting all new registrations of them, catching both dealers and buyers off guard and raising ire.

    "We are living in a capitalist society, but it's like we are being governed by Communists," said Alim Nekzad, who has a showroom in north Montreal full of right-hand-drive cars all souped up with nowhere to go.

    Quebec is the first province to restrict registration of right-hand-drive vehicles. Amid all the fuss, however, is a government sitting pretty, if not smug. Quebec's roads are, indeed, getting safer.

    Statistics from the province's public auto insurance board show deaths are down 18 per cent compared to this time last year, continuing a trend of the past three years. It's a similar story for injuries, says the Société de automobile du Québec.

    "The results are encouraging, but we must maintain this pace of improvement," said SAAQ official Audrey Chaput, adding that the board has intensified its legislative efforts and collaboration with the police since 2007. In Quebec, the SAAQ insures against injuries, while also issuing licences and registrations and promoting road safety.

    The government has not been shy in courting controversy over its roads of late.

    Besides mandatory winter tires, motorcycle registration fees are going up – some by 340 per cent – to cover the cost of claims.

    And earlier this week the SAAQ revealed its intention to ban anyone under 25 from operating powerful sport motorbikes.

    The right-hand-drive ban has infuriated enthusiasts. They're planning a protest in front of SAAQ's Quebec City headquarters next month and already have 5,000 names on a petition.

    There are about 3,000 such cars in Quebec and more than 70,000 across Canada.

    Owners of cars registered before the moratorium may still drive their cars on the road.

    "But it is becoming more and more popular, and the question is: Is it configured to be safe on our roads?" Chaput explained.

    SAAQ is not issuing new registrations until November so it can study the issue.

    Nekzad, manager of JDM Montreal, said dealers "didn't get any notice" of the ban and are now left with inventories. Chaput reiterated it's a matter of road safety.

    The SAAQ cites a British Columbia study suggesting the vehicles increase accident risks by more than 40 per cent, and believes a right-side wheel makes it harder to see other cars while passing.

    Mechanic Donovan Weekes, 24, who lives in Pierrefonds and owns a black Nissan Skyline turbo, disagrees. "I feel more comfortable passing in my car," he said.

    If anything, Weekes said, the danger comes from other, curious drivers. "One time, a lady driving next to me did a double take and ended up on the sidewalk."

    Nicolas Mailloux, 30, who owns a Suzuki Cappuccino, said it's not right to punish a whole group because of those who don't drive safely.

    "It's not the car, it's the driver," he said, adding the SAAQ has admitted not knowing if any of the roughly 200 accidents last year involving right-hand-drive cars had anything to do with the position of the steering wheel.

    Part of the appeal for enthusiasts is that the cars make them unique. Most come from Japan, where people drive on the left side of the road, and are all at least 15 years old. (Federal regulations prohibit the import of used cars newer than that.)

    They're popular because they're typically rust-free, more powerful and have fewer miles on them compared to North American or European used cars.

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    This infuriates me beyond belief. It better not make it's way to Ontario or Quebec, otherwise there is going to be some REALLY really angry gangs coming after the Government. Especially in B.C.
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    • #3
      I agree with it, they simply are not as safe as cars being sold these days in Canada.
      If you argue that you are being naive and biased.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mcfly View Post
        I agree with it, they simply are not as safe as cars being sold these days in Canada.
        If you argue that you are being naive and biased.
        Are you comparing a 15 year old Japanese car to a brand new North American car? If you are I agree. But comparing our cars to another 15 year old car I doubt you'd see the difference. I agree with others that say it's the driver not the car. If one chooses to pass on the highway or make a left turn without a clear view you can't bame the car. I have trouble seeing around SUV's and trucks in my LHD Mazda 3. Not much different of a situation.
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        • #5
          This is rediculous ... just because some people can't drive does not mean everyone can't drive. It's the idiots who can't wait the extra few seconds to take a second or third look at an intersection that ruin this for everyone else. I sit behind the line or wait for the yellow to come to finish my turn.

          If anything i have become a better driver because of my RHD vehicle.
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          • #6
            Statistics from the province's public auto insurance board show deaths are down 18 per cent compared to this time last year, continuing a trend of the past three years. It's a similar story for injuries, says the Société de automobile du Québec.
            Does anyone else see the problem with this? Hasn't the ban only been in effect for like... a month?! How can they compare statistics based on a year long scale when the change JUST OCCURED?! It's not like every RHD vehicle has been removed from the road or written off and they're only looking at LHD statistics now.

            That is a pure and prime example of how these corporations lie through their teeth. If there is any difference, very little of it is from the recent ban. All it has affected is the new registration of jdm vehicles, and probably hardly dented the population of RHD vehicles on the road. This is ********.

            EDIT: Yes I know this is relating to many other things they have put into place but they pose it as if this was a major contributor to that statistic.
            DISCLAIMER: If any of the above comments in this post hurt your feelings you are likely taking me too seriously; I'm probably just busting your balls. If you're unsure, feel free to PM me and we can discuss the matter privately, as to not pull the thread OT.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mcfly View Post
              I agree with it, they simply are not as safe as cars being sold these days in Canada.
              If you argue that you are being naive and biased.
              I agree with you on the fact that rhd shouldnt be on canadian roads but im going to argue the fact that in japan there is both lhd and rhd and there is no problems, Also comparing a jdm 15 yr old car to a N/A 15 yr old car obviously we both know the difference.
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              • #8
                I think the problem here is that most Canadians think they know how to drive but really can't! I'm talking about the majority of the population here! Let's face our driver education programs are a joke if you compare it to other countries! When I first started to drive in Japan (Tokyo), I pretty much had to relearn how to drive! You have to be so much more careful here, there is a lot going on and the drivers here have to be sharp and alert at all times! Even on the highways. In Canada, driving is too relaxed and easy and that means people will pay attention to other stuff than the road. That's what needs to be fixed not getting rid of RHD.

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                • #9
                  i dont see how right hand drive is more dangerous.

                  it is the driver that is dangerous not the damn car.

                  when i pass people i leave a larger following distance, and that is only on semi's. cars and trucks are fine to pass.

                  im not being niave or biased. im just stating a fact. you drive smart you wont have a problem

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FastPAt View Post
                    This is rediculous ... just because some people can't drive does not mean everyone can't drive. It's the idiots who can't wait the extra few seconds to take a second or third look at an intersection that ruin this for everyone else. I sit behind the line or wait for the yellow to come to finish my turn.

                    If anything i have become a better driver because of my RHD vehicle.
                    So what you are saying is that everybody else on the road has to wait because we want to drive right hand vehicles? For this very reason I avoid taking left hand turns during rush hour or roads that have poor visibility.

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                    • #11
                      Passing in a RHD is not as safe as passing in a LHD. Then again, is passing ever safe. I know the tricks to pass but still. You can ALMOST garantee that within 5 years they will be banned from new registries and/or registrations/insurance could cost more for us. Some people will simply convert to LHD... Prepare for the worst and enjoy the best until then!!!!1
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                      • #12
                        deaths down by 18% since last year.....

                        well considering they had ZERO deaths related to RHD until AFTER the ban was in place, this 18% number is as credible as icbc's 40% number...

                        lets see the data they used to get this 18%

                        in order for them to outright BAN RHD vehicles they need proof that they are dangerous and that simply WILL NOT HAPPEN... unless everyone of us who owns a RHD vehicle goes out and crashes it they cant ban it.... wont happen and if it does.... i am leaving canada, and i am a person who doesnt like even leaving my house. i hate travelling... but an out right ban would give me a legitimate reason to leave my home country!!!
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                        • #13
                          If the government actually cared about our well being they wouldn't be wasting their time trying to ban something like rhd, where there are no legitimate safety concerns.

                          I'm sure if they actually cared they would ban smoking, drinking, talking/texting on cell phones while driving, fast food hell I can think of a lot of things.

                          The unfortunate thing about the gov't nowadays is the peoples perception of it... THEY WORK FOR US. We pay them through taxes to run the country however WE SEE FIT. Unfortunately most people would be just as happy ignoring this fact and blindly agreeing with them *sigh*.

                          I am starting to wonder what makes Canada such a great country again?
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                          • #14
                            Passing in a lhd is a dangeours as passing in a rhd, you have to ethier move into on coming traffic to see if theres a car coming or the shoulder, i find rhd is easier though i feel safer on the shoulder then the on coming lane, and for left turns, ive seen more people crash driving lhd then rhd, they tend to take chances, im always very cautious when i take a lhd turn and even when im driving my lhd vehicle i tend to turn on yellow due to no breaks in traffic.

                            I think they should have a special licence for rhd though, make it harder for peopel to acquire earning the right to drive the car and not getting hassled.

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                            • #15
                              its douchebag kids fkin it up for us...
                              i was driving on a busy street n this douchebag kid in his pos gtst was drivin aggressively tailgating me tryna race my rx7 n my frd's m3... i slowed down n let him gtfo.. like wtf? rly? u wana show off how fast ur pos goes to a m3?
                              kids under 21 should be banned from 200bhp+ cars...

                              some1 tell the ppl who made these dumbass studies
                              ITS THE DRIVERS, NOT THE CARS
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