R33 headlights + DOT compliance

[RSi]

Hows that going to help you with the po-po?

[quadracer111]

What do you mean? The car is fully legal because it was passed by an inspection shop, most they can do is order a VI, shouldnt have to do anything to get it to pass. Plus the cops here don't know anything about rhd really and dot stuff.. My way is more legit (well its not a way, its just taking it into a shop that doesnt know about the dot stuff) than putting in accords and then swapping them out after... I could see getting into trouble that way..

[RSi]

Sounds like a quick way to get a reinspection notice if you ask me....

Waste of cash....

[quadracer111]

I don't get it though....

I took my car in expecting to replace the headlights anyway, then to my surprise when I picked up the car he said nothing about the headlights... On the sgi sheet it doesn't say anything about DOT headlights either, it just says "headlights work and correct aim".

So to the average Joe, there is no shady stuff happening here. What am I suppose to do? Swap for ugly accords even though it passed?

[RSi]

Ahh but say a number of RHDs get pulled over with "illegal" lights... All say "But it was inspected and ok"... They check where is issuing the certifications, investigate, close them down, and issue reinspection notices.

Same kind of thing happened here, only a couple of shops werent even looking at the cars, and just issuing passes...

[quadracer111]

True, I guess it is because this shop doesnt do any rhd's..

[MR666]

Unfortunately they are still illegal because you are using OEM glass that due to the cuts in the glass refracts light into oncoming traffic.

Well you don't know much about DOT head lights.

If you install the Audi A6 Bi-Xenon projectors into your light body this makes them DOT certified. The Audi lights come from the USA and are made for thier DOT program which Canada adopted. Second the factory lense has been cleared to use as it has clear glass in front of the projector and is deemed just a cover. If and only if the glass in front of the projector is prisumed then no you can't use it like the N1 lights. So go online and buy some audi lights and stick them in. Take pictures of it and you have a leagal record to show they are DOT compliant and your scott free. If you use Honda lights they look like crap, I'm sorry if I offend you guys who are using them but they do look like ill fitting crap !

[MR666]

Yeah good luck convincing constable plod that they are legal...

Constable plod is not the one you have to convince, If you put the Audi projectors in then you have replaced the no compliant ones with already approved ones. The court takes this quiet easily and the case is dimissed. Constable plod is stupid either way.

[bnsportsr33]

where do you get these audi lights? and how hard of an install is it?

[M-type]

yes i also need option of what to do with my 1994 R33 GTS -25t garage impul versions headlights?
contacted tekeda ...waiting to hear what they say
i dont understand why nissan hasnt made this for NA skylines ... there is obviously a need world wide for DOT headlights
like converting a g35s or maximas headlights to work
but im interested in hearing more on audi a6 bi convert

[quadracer111]

Honestly, just swap in prelude lights, pass it, then put your stockers back in.

95% of this forum (sad to say, but who the hell wants ugly lights on their car) run the stock lights... I approve and appreciate people that do custom retrofits, but for some of us, swap in, swap out is easier. I would rather have an inspection shop nit pick over mechanical stuff and not be worried about lights than a shop thats dot this dot that but passes a car that is not mechanically fit.

[bnsportsr33]

Honestly, just swap in prelude lights, pass it, then put your stockers back in.

95% of this forum (sad to say, but who the hell wants ugly lights on their car) run the stock lights... I approve and appreciate people that do custom retrofits, but for some of us, swap in, swap out is easier. I would rather have an inspection shop nit pick over mechanical stuff and not be worried about lights than a shop thats dot this dot that but passes a car that is not mechanically fit.

Its not shops im worried about its, its the damn cops around here , they are ******* insane man! I get pulled over a lot for no reason and this is just one more reason to ticket me,, i have been running with lude lights all summer and i hate it, it looks terrible but hey man its gotta be done I just wish there was another option to use the stockers!

[GT]

Well you don't know much about DOT head lights.

If you install the Audi A6 Bi-Xenon projectors into your light body this makes them DOT certified. The Audi lights come from the USA and are made for thier DOT program which Canada adopted. Second the factory lense has been cleared to use as it has clear glass in front of the projector and is deemed just a cover. If and only if the glass in front of the projector is prisumed then no you can't use it like the N1 lights. So go online and buy some audi lights and stick them in. Take pictures of it and you have a leagal record to show they are DOT compliant and your scott free. If you use Honda lights they look like crap, I'm sorry if I offend you guys who are using them but they do look like ill fitting crap !

Good effort but, in BC the LENS must bear DOT/SAE or the appropriate Ecode. I'm not sure where you got the above info, but its wrong. The only exception to a lens not having to bear the mark is if teh vehicle bears a Canadian Decal of compliance ( smart cars as an example).

[Dragon Humper]

Good effort but, in BC the LENS must bear DOT/SAE or the appropriate Ecode. I'm not sure where you got the above info, but its wrong. The only exception to a lens not having to bear the mark is if teh vehicle bears a Canadian Decal of compliance ( smart cars as an example).

Another point to make is if the projector lense itself (not sure if that is what you ment^^^) does not have a DOT mark on it, it won't do you any good. If the chucklehead inspecting your car can't see DOT it's a no go.

The biggest thing about this whole shitstorm of BS surounding inspections is that most people of "authority" don't have a freaking clue what to do with these cars. The lazy way to get a handle on things is to say that stuff needs to be DOT. The thing is, because these cars are over 15 years old, NONE of that sh1t matters, it doesn't apply to these cars. The only thing of any issue is the headlight cutoff bias. They fix this in Europe with benders or simple block off stickers that are applied to the outside of the lenses, works really well. Canadian authorities have no clue about stuff like that because they really could care less and domestic car dealers/manufacturers are badgering government about us.

Things are pretty good here in BC, the only thing we need to validate is the benders/blockers so that we can keep the OEM headlights. They don't need to be DOT, because technically it doesn't apply to us, but that is the easy way that the government can make sure that the headlights aren't going to blind anyone.

On a side note, I have my stock N1 lights adjusted so that you can't even tell the difference between me and the car next to me. Visibility is exellent.


Jon.

[GT]

Not true Dragon Humper. You are correct that the cars are exempt from Federal Standards when they are 15 years of age or older, however, in BC the BC MVAR adopts the federal standards as their own.

Here;

General lighting requirements
4.02 (1) A vehicle on a highway must only be equipped with and use lamps, reflectors or other illuminating devices authorized by this Division or authorized in writing by the director.

(2) A vehicle on a highway must be equipped with lamps equivalent to those provided by the original manufacturer in accordance with the requirements that applied under the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada), or a predecessor to that Act, at the time of vehicle manufacture.

(3) All lamps, lamp bulbs and reflectors required or permitted by this Division must comply with

(a) the approved standards established by the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada) and the applicable SAE standards,

(b) the conditions of use described in this Division, and

(c) the requirements of Table 1 of the Schedule to this Division.

(4) The function of 2 or more lamps or reflectors may be combined if each function meets the following requirements:

(a) no turn signal lamp may be combined optically with a stop lamp unless the stop lamp is extinguished when the turn signal is flashing;

(b) a clearance lamp must not be combined optically with a tail-lamp or identification lamp.

(5) The director may exempt vehicles or classes of vehicles from the requirements of this section.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2; am. B.C. Reg. 135/2003, s. 1.]