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Originally posted by gtrjon View Postwhy would you spend the supposed 2k+ on a new manifold just to run a vband set up when you could of chopped off the t4 flange and welded on a vband flange yourself. something doesnt sound right. i dont doubt your set up i just dont know anyone that would spend over 2k to simply switch to vband on the same manifold
Obviously, you know nothing of the difference between the two different HKS T51 exhaust manifolds. The T4 flange manifold is FULLY DIVIDED with a dual to single 60mm wastegate dump. The v-band flange manifold is a FULLY OPEN design with a single 60mm wastegate dump (that also happens to have the turbo flange sit about an inch lower (I need all the clearance I can get!). There was no reason to do some cut and botch job on a fully divided manifold to attempt to open it up and weld on a v-band flange. Sorry, but I like easy and that didn't appear to be one bit easy.
I didn't purchase the v-band HKS manifold new. I got a full turbine set (T51R Kai, v-band manifold, HKS 60mm GT wastegate) for about $2500 USED. I sold the POS turbine to one of the Japanese tuner shops here in Okinawa and then sat on the HKS T4 manifold and extra wastegate until someone showed interest. LuckyGTR needed the parts so I sold them to him for a fair price. I seem to have come out about even with the manifold swap by purchasing the entire kit and selling the parts I didn't need.
Here's some eye candy for you:
Last edited by rickskylinebnr32gtrjp; 04-11-2012, 09:45 AM.
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Originally posted by rickskylinebnr32gtrjp View PostLuc bought the used HKS header and HKS 60mm wastegate from me. Did I mention I used this setup with a Greddy T88H-38GK at 2.2bar? 0-100mph in 5.3 seconds? I think it flows plenty good at 900-1000HP which is what it was designed to support on the top end. It will be more than adequate for Luc's 550HP setup.
Oh yeah, I am running the exact same setup (except v-band flange version) on my GTR right now with a Bullseye S375R turbo at 2.2 bar boost and just twisted off both front axles from an 8000rpm launch (9500rpm redline). Once again, I think the flow potential is there.
Besides, the setup was used and the price was decent. FullRace plus Tial wastegates is twice the price and Luc decided (smartly, I might add) to go with the newer technology in the turbo vice the manifold and wastegate(s) where he would have seen minimal gains, if any.
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Originally posted by leeaspin View PostWhat kinda tread you have? I have some toyo proxes.
Or you talking about a THREAD...like a build THREAD.
Haha ok I done now I follow along your build and just ignore your excessive use of capitals.
2.tread here is not bad alot of quality part wit no corner cut for a stock block (rods piston crank oil pump) r34 all the supporting mods are there and we gonna have a new experiance wit gtr since that size of turbo of that compagny never went on any RB yet
so if i was u i would just enjjoy the 6 speed swap(wit diff) + single turbo conversion and all the other thing happening for this season
on the other side of the thing
dyno coming soon
missing 2 part and ready to build back the engine !
cheers
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Originally posted by LuckyGTR View Postlol? wtf bro IF I WRITE in cap lock maybe is because iam happy and its easier for ME TO READ BETTER WAT IAM WRITTING JUST LIKE NOW
how bout stop complaning like a bitch on my tread , and enjoy wats more important in the tread ? no
neways just saying
What kinda tread you have? I have some toyo proxes.
Or you talking about a THREAD...like a build THREAD.
Haha ok I done now I follow along your build and just ignore your excessive use of capitals.
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Originally posted by DJ View PostScuse Luc, I dont know why I put it that way .I guess I was trying to inform you that it isnt a regular v-band , you'll have to order another marmon flange.I just got a v band welded on mine because if ever I wanted to swap turbos with any other brand it would be a quick and easy swap.
ill buy another mormon flange and we gonna use it for my down pipe
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Scuse Luc, I dont know why I put it that way .I guess I was trying to inform you that it isnt a regular v-band , you'll have to order another marmon flange.I just got a v band welded on mine because if ever I wanted to swap turbos with any other brand it would be a quick and easy swap.
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Like I said for the price he got, I would have tooI guess I am just a nazi for little stuff lol. either way should be cool!
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Originally posted by rickskylinebnr32gtrjp View Postluc bought the used hks header and hks 60mm wastegate from me. Did i mention i used this setup with a greddy t88h-38gk at 2.2bar? 0-100mph in 5.3 seconds? I think it flows plenty good at 900-1000hp which is what it was designed to support on the top end. It will be more than adequate for luc's 550hp setup.
Oh yeah, i am running the exact same setup (except v-band flange version) on my gtr right now with a bullseye s375r turbo at 2.2 bar boost and just twisted off both front axles from an 8000rpm launch (9500rpm redline). Once again, i think the flow potential is there.
Besides, the setup was used and the price was decent. Fullrace plus tial wastegates is twice the price and luc decided (smartly, i might add) to go with the newer technology in the turbo vice the manifold and wastegate(s) where he would have seen minimal gains, if any.
amen
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Originally posted by K_Shan View PostWell they are both divided. But the design is the difference. See the waste gate port? do you think the HKS unit flows/controls boost as well as the full race? *for best boost control Fomula 1 and others used waste gates integrated into the turbine housing. but since thats not very good looking and since we are talking using a stock location.. the manifold will have to work. so just like the flow do you think the flow will make the 125* turn? with that lip? even under pressure that isn't a very good design. thats why I asked "why not a full race?" because the full race is designed with flow a "little bit" more in mind for waste gate control.. did I mention the runners? I doubt I would need to. as runner length decides curves. so its "find what suits you."
tial waste gates are Much newer units with more R&d behind them.. that hks unit is a dinosaur. (still works the same.. just different alloys and a more efficient design flow/space used wise)
not trying to argue. just a simple question.
ahh. well hey thats not a bad deal! congrats. Hope it works out for ya.
Oh yeah, I am running the exact same setup (except v-band flange version) on my GTR right now with a Bullseye S375R turbo at 2.2 bar boost and just twisted off both front axles from an 8000rpm launch (9500rpm redline). Once again, I think the flow potential is there.
Besides, the setup was used and the price was decent. FullRace plus Tial wastegates is twice the price and Luc decided (smartly, I might add) to go with the newer technology in the turbo vice the manifold and wastegate(s) where he would have seen minimal gains, if any.
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Originally posted by cobrAA View PostLet me reverse the question, why do you think fullrace/tial is more appropriate than hks?
tial waste gates are Much newer units with more R&d behind them.. that hks unit is a dinosaur. (still works the same.. just different alloys and a more efficient design flow/space used wise)
not trying to argue. just a simple question.
Originally posted by LuckyGTR View PostYEAH I PAID 1550 !! FOR THE MANIFOLD + WASTE GATE TO A GOOD FRIEND THAT HAD TO SWITCH TO OPEN MANIFOLD SINCE HIS NEW TURBO HAD A VBAND INSTEAD OF A T4 FLANG SO i got these for 1/2 price of the price of the manifold ALONE lol
and this HKS one is worth 2500 $ new btw ! not shipped !"Last edited by K_Shan; 04-10-2012, 02:12 AM.
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Originally posted by DJ View PostYou didnt get the proper v band.. I believe thats a marmon flange.It doesnt mate to a regular v band.
I had full-race cut mine off and weld a proper V band.
BTW ,, how can it be the wrong v band wen my down pipe does not exist yet cuz we making one stainless 3 inch so we gonna match it so everything work perfecly tx for careing ....
Last edited by LuckyGTR; 04-09-2012, 10:42 PM.
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