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  • #16
    Originally posted by gtrjon View Post
    Hey guys so im approaching the end of my build and i have left the fueling for the end lol. so i plan on running id 1000cc injectors with the powerhouse fuel rail but i am unsure of what i want to do with my fuel pump set up. i am looking to make 600-700hp and i dont know of any single pump that can supply that much fuel. so what is the easiest/cheast way to ger enough fuel for say 750whp?
    You're building 700whp (close to 900crank) forget about cheap, I'd hate to see failures cause of a cheap fuel setup... You've got 30k+ into that car, fuel is one of the things you don't cheap out on.

    Aeromotive A1000 will flow that easily. Some work to install but the shop building that high power car will know what to do. Nice build!
    Last edited by Bruizer; 05-08-2011, 09:59 PM.
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    • #17
      thanks guys for all the imput but i got it all figured out. going with a surge tank fed by my stock gtr pump then a inline aeromotive a1000 and a inline filter will all braided feed and return lines to my rail. should do the job!
      1991 Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R: 710whp 521 ft/lbs 27.5psi 11.8 @126mph low boost

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      • #18
        what size lines?

        and what fpr?
        oh hai!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by gtrjon View Post
          thanks guys for all the imput but i got it all figured out. going with a surge tank fed by my stock gtr pump then a inline aeromotive a1000 and a inline filter will all braided feed and return lines to my rail. should do the job!
          That's exactly what I am replacing my twin in-tank Tomei's with. Cost me all of $400 for the 4L pot and the A1000. I second the aluminum hard lines over braided, they will weigh less than half and if you beleive rumours on the internet, you won't have any fuel smell. They will cost 1/3 of what braided will with all the fittings and extra crap you will have to buy.



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          • #20
            So I'm at this same crossroad now. My wee tomei pump isn't gonna get me the fuel I want. I dread the thought of the day one of the twins fail (cause they all eventually do though not at the same time)

            So the guys running big powerful singles, what did you do to remedy the heat problems? According to some places, a big pump like that can cycle the whole tank (on a return system) in less than 12 mins so we're talking lots of heat. Anyone running speed controllers?
            What about line sizes? An A1000 uses -10s but most rails use -6, so what did you guys do for lines? Run a -10 and split to -6s?

            And finally noise, any boxes or rubber mounts?

            Anyone try the A1000 in tank pump?
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            • #21
              Stock in-tank (or whatever you have in there) feeding a surge tank with 2x smaller pumps or 1x bigger one is the easiest/best way to do it IMO.

              Originally posted by NismoS-tune View Post
              So I'm at this same crossroad now. My wee tomei pump isn't gonna get me the fuel I want. I dread the thought of the day one of the twins fail (cause they all eventually do though not at the same time)

              So the guys running big powerful singles, what did you do to remedy the heat problems? According to some places, a big pump like that can cycle the whole tank (on a return system) in less than 12 mins so we're talking lots of heat. Anyone running speed controllers?
              What about line sizes? An A1000 uses -10s but most rails use -6, so what did you guys do for lines? Run a -10 and split to -6s?

              And finally noise, any boxes or rubber mounts?

              Anyone try the A1000 in tank pump?
              Originally posted by archaeic_bloke
              hows the warp drive? i've seen far too many GTR's lately that just arent able to hit warp speed.

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              • #22
                The a1000 is loud there is no way getting around that. The heat isnt too bad though. im running -10 feed and -8 return lines.


                little messy but simple and effective none the less
                1991 Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R: 710whp 521 ft/lbs 27.5psi 11.8 @126mph low boost

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                • #23
                  Anyone running an A1000 should use the speed controller.
                  For any brush style pump, on any type of vehicle, the Aeromotive Fuel Pump Speed Controller (FPSC) minimizes fuel heating and vapor-lock problems by matching the duty cycle of the fuel pump to engine RPM. At low demand, the FPSC slows the fuel pump down, reducing the chance of suction side cavitation and vapor lock. Wh


                  Pump will last longer and less chance of vapor locking the pump due to hot fuel.

                  R32.4 GTR

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by hozer View Post
                    Stock in-tank (or whatever you have in there) feeding a surge tank with 2x smaller pumps or 1x bigger one is the easiest/best way to do it IMO.
                    I have a swirl pot lined up but am trying to decide on the output pumps, whether 2x 044s (scary) or 1x A1000 (yeah, the pump controller is a must but I can't find a usuable RPM output from the ecu to control the PWM yet....
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                    • #25
                      Anyone use of hear about the Weldon 1100A? Supposedly it's superior in every way that the A1000 fails at...
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                      Black 1990 Pulsar GTiR. Sold
                      Silver 1989 GTR. Sold
                      Black 2010 Subaru WRX. Weekend warrior. Sold.
                      Black 2013 F-150 FX4 ecoboost. Daily driver.
                      White 2012 Ford Explorer Limited. Family wagon.

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                      start by having A ROLLING GTR then we talk u ******* mofo funzy little *****
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                      • #26
                        Honestly I don't think it matters which pumps you run out of the surge tank. Every one has seen "X" pump die on their best friends dogs neighbors car. Buy what you want.

                        I run 2x Bosch 909's
                        260lph free flow
                        Had one personally fail on me, caused no problems, bought the same pump again and still like em.
                        Originally posted by archaeic_bloke
                        hows the warp drive? i've seen far too many GTR's lately that just arent able to hit warp speed.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by hozer View Post
                          Honestly I don't think it matters which pumps you run out of the surge tank. Every one has seen "X" pump die on their best friends dogs neighbors car. Buy what you want.

                          I run 2x Bosch 909's
                          260lph free flow
                          Had one personally fail on me, caused no problems, bought the same pump again and still like em.
                          Well said! I think I'll go with the single. Can't chance leaning out on twins.
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                          Black 1990 Pulsar GTiR. Sold
                          Silver 1989 GTR. Sold
                          Black 2010 Subaru WRX. Weekend warrior. Sold.
                          Black 2013 F-150 FX4 ecoboost. Daily driver.
                          White 2012 Ford Explorer Limited. Family wagon.

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                          start by having A ROLLING GTR then we talk u ******* mofo funzy little *****
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                          • #28
                            There is some debate but would there be enough flow if someone would want to keep the stock hard lines? Another thing I'm wondering is if 2 tomei fuel pumps in tank would be enough? If I do go with a larger setup I would rather do in tank unless there are extreme benefits from the swirl pot...? Definitely won't be considering this for a while but would like to know what I should be looking at
                            Miss driving sooooo bad! Need to get a car on the road ASAP!

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                            • #29
                              The swirl pot means you have a buffer zone from fuel sloshing back and forth and risk having the fuel pump not having enough fuel to suck up. The Tomei is an awesome pump, but if you are going with a swirl pump set up I'd go with an out tank setup with Walbro or Bosch pumps. 800hp is an incredible amount of power, and not needed (and a disadvantage) for the tracks in Ontario. A nice, responsive setup with 500-600hp would perform far better and be tons cheaper.
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                              • #30
                                Sorry just realized the OP was not from Ontario, my bad
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