who are you going to vote for?

[RABBIT]

Life insurance can be pennies compaird to government aid.
And my family didn't have any since like a large portion of Toronto/Canadian famlies we were New immigrants. We wouldn't have anything if it weren't for goverment EDIT: Society assistance.
You guys are argueing against a welfare state not the Canadian welfare system.

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[PL_GTR]

conservatives for sure

[Tony-R32]

Exactly! If a loved one suddenly passes away and you are left in a rut, A life insurance policy should keep them on their feet.

My mom raised me and took care of herself on less than 20,000 a year with no father in the picture who payed child support maybe 1/4 of the year...but she continued to push hard and work at life.

I have a problem with people on welfare who have kids every 3 to 5 years not because they want kids or plan to give them bright futures but rather to get a bigger child tax credit, and a bigger monthly cheque

No effense to your mother in any way, i'm sure what she did most people couldn't do. I'm fed up with my tax dollars going towards people who are frankly too lazy to get a job and blame the world for their problems...I have no problem with people such as your mother who actually needed the system. Unfortunatly it's the first group that makes up most of welfare dependants.

[raijin-xiii]

Well if Ur anything like my mother who's husband was killed and had no supportive family leaving you pregnant with mouths to feed.... u might have a diffrent veiw on the matter.

Yeah because this accounts for 100% of people on welfare right?
Sorry to hear about your mom's situation though.

Edit: Actually, this is the type of thing LIFE INSURANCE is for. No offence, but if you've got kids and other dependents (a wife), it's completely irresponsible NOT to have life insurance.

**** welfare.

[RABBIT]

Well if Ur anything like my mother who's husband was killed and had no supportive family leaving you pregnant with mouths to feed.... u might have a diffrent veiw on the matter.

I stood up and applauded that post!

People on welfare should:

a) Not be aloud to have kids
b) have to dig ditches or pick up their own **** that they so kindly leave all over the neighborhood to earn their cheques.

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[Terrh]

NDP. **** harper!

[Tony-R32]

The welfare system destroyed darwins theory of evolution.

Just go to walmart and look aroud you ...

I stood up and applauded that post!

People on welfare should:

a) Not be aloud to have kids
b) have to dig ditches or pick up their own **** that they so kindly leave all over the neighborhood to earn their cheques.

[cortexx]

You wouldn't need to raise taxes lol the abolition of welfare would generate at least 50 billion dollars (exaggeration) in savings from manitoba alone. Seeing as how so many people in this freaking province are too lazy to get a job and just live off the system.

The welfare system destroyed darwins theory of evolution.

Just go to walmart and look aroud you ...

[albertm7]

Oh and all of the major leaders are all scumbags...

[albertm7]

I just want to say that the Canadian democratic system is very ineffective...
First past the post is the worst possible system of democracy imo, if your vote for anybody but conservatives in Alberta, your vote is essentially wasted
It's even more sad when you realize that not even the majority of Albertans don't even vote for conservatives, but JUST ENOUGH for it to be considered a conservative stronghold
I'm not sure how it goes down in the other provinces but I'm guessing it's the same old story
As an individual, I just don't have much initiative to go out and vote for what I want to see being done in Canada
And our senate is absolutely useless, just a bunch of old f*cks collecting tax dollars

[Tony-R32]

You wouldn't need to raise taxes lol the abolition of welfare would generate at least 50 billion dollars (exaggeration) in savings from manitoba alone. Seeing as how so many people in this freaking province are too lazy to get a job and just live off the system.

[rimbimbambo]

I'm going NDP - I don't trust the liberals and harper has ****** up way more **** then people realize. He sold BC hydro to corporations in the states with a contract that says they have to keep the prices the same for x years, then they can jack up the prices however they want - That's pretty much right on time for someone else to take office and then allow US companies to sell our power back to us at 3x the price we were getting.

Honestly I can't trust Harper - he's in it for himself and his ideals are turning Canada into the US. That's bad news any way you look at it.

What I'd like to do is just vote for an independent. I don't care if the vote gets thrown away, at least I'm not supporting assholes, but no one seems to cover beliefs of anyone except the major parties.

What really should have happened is the retards who down voted the ranked voting system a few years ago should be beaten until they realize they should understand something before they just vote no.

[cortexx]

We'd have empty prison cells if we hanged all the murderers , rapists , drug pushers etc .

actually id have inmate do something good for the environment , like walk a treadmill 4 hours a day to generate electricity. Debt to society paid in a producctive manner.

With capital punishment being a threat you'd have alot less crime and alot fewer inmates !

[jdms13rhd]

Well vote for me :-

I'll bring in the following :-

Hanging for all pedophiles , drug traffickers , rapists and murderers.

Abolition of the welfare system , work or starve - if you cant find a job you'll work for your local city picking up litter etc .

Reform of the immigration system and an end to the green card lottery that allows 50,000 families free entry into canada each year from the middle east that cant speak a word of english or french (they get a free handout out of up to $40,000 on landing to help buy a house , start a business , buy a minivan , free healthcare etc).

1 year mandatory ban for DUI , lifetime ban for second offence.

Mandatory prison time for violent crimes.

drop tax on Gasoline , double Tax on cigarettes .

Make people that are obese because of retarded eating habits pay more for their healthcare , same for smokers and alcoholics.

Bring back corporate punishment in schools for disrespectful little punks . (6 whacks from the cane didnt do me any harm but it sure taught me to be careful how to speak to my teacher lol).

Mandatory 5 years prison for carrying an illegal firearm in a public place

Maybe mandatory 2 years national service when you leave school , UNLESS you graduate and go to either college or university!

and thats just for s start

And raise tax 60% to pay for all those extra prison cells, right?

[jdms13rhd]

I'm thinking of rejecting my ballot as well, but to be honest I think the NDP have a huge opportunity to form the opposition. I tend to agree with Layton on a lot of major issues and given his positive attitude even when going through his cancer treatment is a big plus for me. Of all the party leaders I find he has the best charisma and overall vibe that a good politician should have. Although some things he's come up with are a bit puzzling.

On the other hand in my local riding our Conservative representative Rob Nicholson was put into office as Justice Minister, and has represented out community very well. Even to the point of helping my church get through some red tape to help a Columbian family escape persecution by immigrating here, BIG plus points for me.

So you can probably understand my dilemma on this one

And if you still really want to spoil your ballot, I'd encourage you to at least wait until the next election to do that. This election, every ballot cast sends $2 to the party you vote for. Harper promises if he gets his majority that he'll scrap this funding -- so your ballot will really be worthless from that point on (unless you happen to vote for the winning candidate). Why does he want to do this? He says we shouldn't "be forced to pay for parties we don't vote for", which is a complete cop-out, since technically you're only paying for parties you don't vote for if you don't vote at all. But doing this will stifle the opposition, as Harper's Cons have always been able to raise more money in fundrasing than any other party (or all the other parties combined, if you want to look at it that way), because of the kickbacks he offers Big Oil & the support he has in the Churches. This should be a big red flag for any democracy-loving Canadian.

Which ties in nicely to your next point, about immigration: your community is lucky that he pulled through for that Columbian family. Under Harper's rule, family reunification is actually down (in his 2011 budget he cut family visas in HALF!) & instead, short-term lone immigrated workers is up big time. So literally, he's giving jobs away to new immigrants, who have no chance of bringing their families to meet them... which doesn't help our communities (and in most cases results in the money leaving Canada, as it's being sent back home). Although, if you watched the debates, you would have witnessed him lying pointblank about this, which I found incredibly presumptuous, especially since I've seen the actual numbers.

And don't get me started on Nicholson's ignorant view on crime: the con's "tough on crime" strict sentencing does nothing beneficial at all. Crime is down in Canada; it's been dropping since the 70's and is today at the lowest point it's been in 10 years. We do not need more prisons & stricter laws! All this will do is put more non-violent, firsttime offenders in jail, & keep everyone else in there longer. Did you know Harper wants to impose more mandatory taxpayer-funded drugtests on inmates in jail? Mandatory drug tests before they are released on parole, and if they fail? They don't get out. Now, this might sound good, but keep in mind that Harper has also cut funding for drug treatment programs in jail, and for harm reduction programs. And there's no plans to deal with the main issue: how the drugs are getting in to a high security jail in the first place (hint: the guards)

Even more ridiculous, all the studies in the world show that longer sentences = more recidivism (the likelihood to reoffend once being released), and more violent recidivism. Jails & prisons are crime schools. And now with the fund cuts for prison programs, this ensures that the transfer from spending x months in jail to being released is not going to produce inmates capable of easy integration back into society. And how will all these extra criminal records help our society? They won't -- they will lead to more crime, more violence, more people incarcerated at taxpayer cost. How much does it cost to keep one inmate in jail? Well, back in 2004/2005 it cost $52,000-$80,000 depending on provincial/federal. Harper says his govt will budget 2Billion a year for stricter sentences, but govt budget watchdogs & the corrections system itself say that the real costs will be much higher. Harper says anything over his budget must be covered by the individual provinces, aka us. Believe me, taxes will go up.

I could go on, but the best examples are often the easiest: look at the US & their failed drug & crime wars. Harper wants to import that failed policy here. Do we need to go down this route?

In the end, vote for who you want. But this election more than ever, it's important to cast an informed vote! We have a lot to lose.