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  • Just curious, are you torquing Your cam caps wet or dry for the 7 nm? I broke a Tomei cam cap studs in the past at 8 ft pounds because i was torquing with lubricant. I guess it clearly states in the jap manual that it's the dry torque which is much less than the equal wet torque. Thinking you simply over torqued them?
    Last edited by Bruizer; 12-16-2014, 03:30 PM.
    No build thread.
    1991 nissan
    El terror

    "Built not bought" sooner or later = "broken not running"

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    • Originally posted by Bruizer View Post
      Just curious, are you torquing Your cam caps wet or dry for the 7 nm? I broke a Tomei cam cap studs in the past at 8 ft pounds because i was torquing with lubricant. I guess it clearly states in the jap manual that it's the dry torque which is much less than the equal wet torque. Thinking you simply over torqued them?
      well they were not over torqued, when i changed the caps over, they work fine at same 8ftlbs. What u mean bu wet/dry? the bolts? or the cams lubed? everything is lubed. the bolts artn soeaked but they were sitting a while so i lubed them a bit
      1992 BNR32 Skyline
      285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


      Current Build:
      Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
      Tomei PonCam Type B
      Manley Titanium Valvetrain
      CP Pistons / Manley Rods
      Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
      N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
      Haltech Platnium Pro
      AEM Water/Menthanol
      Tomei FPR
      Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

      May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


      Build Thread
      http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

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      • I think titanium valve retainer is a sales ploy....

        If you call Supertech tech support and ask if their titanium retainer sacrifice longevity for strength, they will say yes. In fact they recommend you to check the titanium retainer every 20k, or the ti retainers will gall on the steel valve keeper and bad stuff happens....
        Since supertech produces parts for Tomei I dont think manley can make them any better....

        I think OEM steel retainer with a set of afternarket springs is the best for you to match your poncam B.

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        • Originally posted by leung23c View Post
          I think titanium valve retainer is a sales ploy....

          If you call Supertech tech support and ask if their titanium retainer sacrifice longevity for strength, they will say yes. In fact they recommend you to check the titanium retainer every 20k, or the ti retainers will gall on the steel valve keeper and bad stuff happens....
          Since supertech produces parts for Tomei I dont think manley can make them any better....

          I think OEM steel retainer with a set of aftermarket springs is the best for you to match your poncam B.

          I agree, its snake oil, but its already installed and shimmed snake oil at this point so.....lol

          This being said, if i was running a 2000hp high revving monster they would likely hold up to super high lift cams and stuff much better. Its like most companies sell stuff no one needs to make moderate power, like billet adjustable cam gears, and every arp bolt in the engine. As much as I think head studs are a good idea, i doubt that anyone really needs arp valve cover bolts ya know...

          Tuner mods....
          1992 BNR32 Skyline
          285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


          Current Build:
          Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
          Tomei PonCam Type B
          Manley Titanium Valvetrain
          CP Pistons / Manley Rods
          Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
          N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
          Haltech Platnium Pro
          AEM Water/Menthanol
          Tomei FPR
          Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

          May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


          Build Thread
          http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

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          • My point is:

            ARP valve cover bolt is expensive, over-engineered, and unnecessary, but it has no downside. It will never ever cause you problems or blow up your engine.

            On ther other hand, Ti-retainer will cause you big problems. Let say you do oil change every 5k kilo. After 4 oil change, the ti-retainers is ready to fail or may be failing. WTF? I need to rip the head out to check the retainers every 4 oil changes? F-u-c-k that.

            If you check tomei website, their Type A spring is compatible with Oem retainers and support up to 10.80mm lift at probably 8000rpm. It will not fail and require no maintenance.

            FYI:

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            • Originally posted by leung23c View Post
              My point is:

              ARP valve cover bolt is expensive, over-engineered, and unnecessary, but it has no downside. It will never ever cause you problems or blow up your engine.

              On ther other hand, Ti-retainer will cause you big problems. Let say you do oil change every 5k kilo. After 4 oil change, the ti-retainers is ready to fail or may be failing. WTF? I need to rip the head out to check the retainers every 4 oil changes? F-u-c-k that.

              If you check tomei website, their Type A spring is compatible with Oem retainers and support up to 10.80mm lift at probably 8000rpm. It will not fail and require no maintenance.

              FYI:

              kinda wish I had seen this before buying manley lol. oh well, too late now... ill just need to keep an eye on it
              1992 BNR32 Skyline
              285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


              Current Build:
              Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
              Tomei PonCam Type B
              Manley Titanium Valvetrain
              CP Pistons / Manley Rods
              Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
              N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
              Haltech Platnium Pro
              AEM Water/Menthanol
              Tomei FPR
              Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

              May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


              Build Thread
              http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

              Comment


              • Originally posted by r32_nate View Post
                well they were not over torqued, when i changed the caps over, they work fine at same 8ftlbs. What u mean bu wet/dry? the bolts? or the cams lubed? everything is lubed. the bolts artn soeaked but they were sitting a while so i lubed them a bit
                putting lubricant on anything you torque changes things a little. Whatever the manual says really. They should say dry or lubricated values.
                No build thread.
                1991 nissan
                El terror

                "Built not bought" sooner or later = "broken not running"

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                • Originally posted by Bruizer View Post
                  putting lubricant on anything you torque changes things a little. Whatever the manual says really. They should say dry or lubricated values.
                  thanks buddy, ill check it out, i was only using it for shimming
                  1992 BNR32 Skyline
                  285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


                  Current Build:
                  Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
                  Tomei PonCam Type B
                  Manley Titanium Valvetrain
                  CP Pistons / Manley Rods
                  Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
                  N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
                  Haltech Platnium Pro
                  AEM Water/Menthanol
                  Tomei FPR
                  Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

                  May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


                  Build Thread
                  http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

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                  • even though Bruizer and I are already on it, I figured Id link a thread I started about oil control and my spline drive debate. decent read i guess.

                    1992 BNR32 Skyline
                    285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


                    Current Build:
                    Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
                    Tomei PonCam Type B
                    Manley Titanium Valvetrain
                    CP Pistons / Manley Rods
                    Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
                    N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
                    Haltech Platnium Pro
                    AEM Water/Menthanol
                    Tomei FPR
                    Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

                    May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


                    Build Thread
                    http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

                    Comment


                    • Just a few more pics, everything is done ready and waiting on the crank before re-assembly. tomei restrictor installed tongiht and some stuff cleaned up.









                      thought Id add a pic of the garage right now lol. At the moment we have a 1.5x RB26 apart, 1x 2JZ apart, an 2x 13B apart lol. Its a bit of a mess, but an organized one haha.
                      1992 BNR32 Skyline
                      285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


                      Current Build:
                      Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
                      Tomei PonCam Type B
                      Manley Titanium Valvetrain
                      CP Pistons / Manley Rods
                      Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
                      N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
                      Haltech Platnium Pro
                      AEM Water/Menthanol
                      Tomei FPR
                      Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

                      May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


                      Build Thread
                      http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

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                      • So while im waiting on supertec to invoice me due to the holiday season, Ive been helping my roommate prep his 2jz for a full build such as mine. While chillin in the garage tonight, he told me we wasn't happy with my port and polish job at all lol ( he is a machine polisher and owns a business doing it ), so i told him if he didnt like it, to fix it. To my surprise he did lol. here some progress pics with the finished product at the end.















                        1992 BNR32 Skyline
                        285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


                        Current Build:
                        Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
                        Tomei PonCam Type B
                        Manley Titanium Valvetrain
                        CP Pistons / Manley Rods
                        Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
                        N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
                        Haltech Platnium Pro
                        AEM Water/Menthanol
                        Tomei FPR
                        Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

                        May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


                        Build Thread
                        http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

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                        • 2JZ, no ****, now that's an engine!!!!

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                          • Originally posted by Boostedgtr View Post
                            2JZ, no ****, now that's an engine!!!!
                            i dunno, locally a guy here only made like 600hp with a full stroker kit on e85 with high boost on his million dollar 2jz. They dont seem like much to me ;P
                            1992 BNR32 Skyline
                            285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


                            Current Build:
                            Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
                            Tomei PonCam Type B
                            Manley Titanium Valvetrain
                            CP Pistons / Manley Rods
                            Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
                            N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
                            Haltech Platnium Pro
                            AEM Water/Menthanol
                            Tomei FPR
                            Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

                            May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


                            Build Thread
                            http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

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                            • Sounds like snake oil

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                              • So while I wait for parts again, I decided to polish my intake manifold, after watching my roommate do his. If I didnt mention it before, hes a machine polisher and does fantastic work! Hes been polishing his intake manifold runners while he waits, and convinced me to do mine, since it will look good with my valve covers.

                                The pics are only sanded, as this IM was painted black before. HOLY **** THE CASTING IS DEEP!



                                1992 BNR32 Skyline
                                285hp / 220tq @ 15.5PSI On Mustang Dyno 2014-09-22


                                Current Build:
                                Precision 6264 Turbo 1.00A/R
                                Tomei PonCam Type B
                                Manley Titanium Valvetrain
                                CP Pistons / Manley Rods
                                Supertec Spline Drive Oil Gears/Drive
                                N1 water pump / N1 Oil Pump
                                Haltech Platnium Pro
                                AEM Water/Menthanol
                                Tomei FPR
                                Exedy Hyper Twin Clutch

                                May 9th, 2015 made 408whp @ 9PSI


                                Build Thread
                                http://forums.gtrcanada.com/gt-r-project-cars/62483-project-modworks-monster-r32-gtr-16.html

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