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  • #76
    Marke,
    Very cool updates!! Thanks for keeping us up to date.

    Your plan to install R compound tires raises a possible red flag in my mind with respect to oil delivery.

    I'll pass on a comment one of the instructors at the ARCA race school made.

    "Turbocharged engines, sticky tires, and wet sump oil systems are a bad combination. It seems that engine parts often end up on the track."

    Although this is just hearsay, it lines up with some other experiences that have been related by other reliable sources. The guys at XS Engineering posted a vid where their oil pressure dropped to zero during some corners and they credited those events with engine damage they sustained during that race.

    I've heard some guys correlating problems with oil systems to high power engines, but to my thinking the problems follow this path....

    1 - Wet sump oil system failure correlates to the pickup sucking air or foamy oil. This correlation may not be 100%, but I'll bet it's close enough for our applications.
    2 - Low oil level at the pickup results from a combination of low oil level in the sump (more on that in a second) and both longitudinal and/or lateral accelleration.

    Low oil level in the sump is caused by either not enough oil in the system (easily avoidable!) or oil pooling in the head and therefore not sitting in the sump. The restrictor orifice will help here, but free oil return from the head to the sump is a key for extented high rpm operation.

    The sump baffle will delay the onset of accelleration related grief, but there are definately limits. I don't know what they are, but the laws of physics dictate that there's combination of accelleration magnitude and duration that will expose the oil pickup. The baffle will significantly raise the magnitude of the tolerable transient g force, but if you spend more than X seconds sustaining high g's the oil will still run past the baffle and ....

    Please don't hear me telling you not to install R Compounds! I see you doing many of the things I'm doing, or plan to do with both build and application. I just want to share the concerns I've got for my own car so you've got the opportunity to think about it before rather than after the fact.

    Cheers,
    Dan
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    The Beaumont Connection

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    • #77
      I hear you Dan. I have thought about this as well. As you pointed out I do have the restrictor and baffle and yes they have their limits.
      I wonder though if the relitively low speeds we do in Autox will generate high enough G's to bring about to oiling issues you speak of. I have seen the XS BNR32 vid myself. I don't believe my car will ever produce the cornering G's that GTR will, but I believe it is worth investigating further.
      I think I will consult with the GTR guru's on this site for clearity for sure.
      Any Guru's reading this thread???
      1989 Skyline GTR

      "Want to Race? Save it for the track!"
      www.victoriamotorsports.ca

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      • #78
        I think you're probably OK on autoX as well Marke mostly because the duration of peak accellerations is really brief.

        Without my tomei baffle I was OK at 1g in autocross, but did some damage at 1.2g transient. (At least I blame the track day! It's easily the hardest cornering the car saw!)

        It's worth noting that my oil pump was on the way out, but at the revs I'd have been running I think it would have delivered plenty of oil if the pickup was submerged.

        Cheers, and keep up the good work out there!

        Dan
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        The Beaumont Connection

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        • #79
          Done my first autox in the rain since all my rescent chassis and suspension mods. I had feared that with the heavier rear swaybar the car would be a disaster in the wet. It was far from being a disaster thanks mostly to my torque split controller. The rear was looser, but not beyond control. I even used it to my advantage a couple of times. I will say that I did hit more cones than usual, as I am pretty good a leaving them standing.

          I did discover if I can get on the throttle at the right time in cornering that I could quickly end understeer. So interesting with the GTR how getting on the throttle can save from terminal understeer. Total goes against what I want to do.
          1989 Skyline GTR

          "Want to Race? Save it for the track!"
          www.victoriamotorsports.ca

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          • #80
            Christmas in the summer!!! Here's a teaser.









            Should have these on my car by tomorrow night.

            Edit: HUGE THANKS to Jason (aka GTR--J) for going over to Vancouver and getting them out of customs for me.
            J , I love you man. : )
            1989 Skyline GTR

            "Want to Race? Save it for the track!"
            www.victoriamotorsports.ca

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            • #81
              Wow! those are damn nice, I wanna see pic of em on!
              2015 Audi RS7 Sepang Blue
              2009 Yamaha R1 Raven Black - SOLD
              2005.5 Audi S4 Sprint Blue Pearl - SOLD
              1989 Nissan Skyline GTR - SOLD

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              • #82
                Sorry, I won't be showing any pics of them mounted.....
                1989 Skyline GTR

                "Want to Race? Save it for the track!"
                www.victoriamotorsports.ca

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                • #83
                  I can't believe you still havent seen the scratch yet after I rolled them down the ferry ramp to see how fast they were
                  Did I trick you on the phone when I said they were black????you paused for a second...I swear I had you....lol!
                  Full-Race sponsored GTR. Anything else is half fast!

                  Full-Race.com

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                  • #84
                    Not the first time, but the second time when you said "Hmmm it says Black on the box" Russel of boxes over the cellphone "Yup, they are black" For a second I was like "No F#@*ing Way", but then I remembered whom I was talking too.

                    Thanks again, Jason. You da man.
                    1989 Skyline GTR

                    "Want to Race? Save it for the track!"
                    www.victoriamotorsports.ca

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                    • #85
                      Those are hot looking wheels! What kind of rubber will you wrapped them with?

                      My cars:
                      1996 BCNR33 GT-R
                      1992 FD3S RX-7 Type-S

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                      • #86
                        Hankook Sport K104's 255/35. Not my first choice in tire, but the price is right, seeing as I will be putting R-compounds on my OEM rims soon after.
                        1989 Skyline GTR

                        "Want to Race? Save it for the track!"
                        www.victoriamotorsports.ca

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                        • #87
                          Let me know how thw K104's work for you. Lots of "Sidewall blow-outs" on 1010tires. I'm running Hankook RH06's on my Element and they seem great so far!!
                          1998 Stagea AutechVersion 260RS
                          1991 GTi-R "Angry White Ghost" - FOR SALE

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                          • #88
                            Well, the wheels are on. They look sooooo awful I am embaressed to post pictures. I think I will stick them on ebay for the Buy Now price of $50........NOT!!!

                            Coming out of the grocery store, I saw my GTR across the street and the sun was hitting the wheels just so....it was so beautiful, I wanted to cry.....then I jumped in, did a four wheel burn out, drove through a flower bed, screaming "WEEEEEEHOOOOO!!!!" at the top of my lungs...... :drive: 8-) :bow down: :!: :!: :!:

                            Pics to come.
                            1989 Skyline GTR

                            "Want to Race? Save it for the track!"
                            www.victoriamotorsports.ca

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                            • #89
                              CE28N's!!! Enjoy.









                              Pictures of other stuff

                              Old School Nismo Strut Tower Bar


                              Cusco Master Cylinder Stopper


                              ARC Super Induction Box re-powder coated to match engine.


                              Only minor disappointment was the bronze centre caps don't fit. They aren't deep enough to fit over the hub bolt. Hopefully they make deeper ones.
                              1989 Skyline GTR

                              "Want to Race? Save it for the track!"
                              www.victoriamotorsports.ca

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                              • #90
                                damn, lookin' good
                                » 1990 - Nissan Skyline GT-R (weekend warrior)

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