I'm Young And Want A Skyline (GTR)

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or just raise minimum age to 21 to get your drivers license..

so basically dont plan on getting a job til your 21?

[R32_TDOT]

there are plenty of jobs out there that dont require a drivers license....

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You live in an area where there is public transport, If i couldn't get my license until I'm 21, I would be limited to working in my own town. In other words I could forget about having a career until I turned 21. It just doesnt make sense man. In this country you are innocent until proven guilty (unless you are "accused" of street racing). Its unfair to deny us our driving privelege in an attempt stop us doing some thing we may or may not do.

[Oakville]

or just raise minimum age to 21 to get your drivers license..

they'll just start with the stupid **** then, instead of having the 5 years until 21 to learn how to drive and adjust to the roads/car.

you're diggin' yourself a hole here

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or just raise minimum age to 21 to get your drivers license..

So then instead of having a bunch of inexperienced 16 year old drivers, we'd have a bunch of inexperienced 21 year old drivers

That's one of the worst things I've ever heard. I used to live in a town called Spruce Grove. If you want to go to University and remain living in Spruce grove your options are to either drive 30 minutes into St. Albert and catch a bus there, or drive 45 minutes to the U of A. Do you really think it's fair to make all the parents of college aged kids have to drive their children to school because some people are afraid that they'd be irresponsible with fast cars? Give me a break.

[Dragon Humper]

So then instead of having a bunch of inexperienced 16 year old drivers, we'd have a bunch of inexperienced 21 year old drivers

Works quite well in Germany. Drinking age is 17 (I think) and driving age is 21. Autobahn is safer than the #1 (the 401 is like Damnation Alley) and everyone deals with it. Not everyone in Germany lives near public transport, they seem to manage. A 21 year old is not going to do half of the stupid crap that a 16 year old would do. Besides, you should be in Post Secondary education for at least 3 to 4 years to make yourself a better person.




Jon.

[Oakville]

Works quite well in Germany. Drinking age is 17 (I think) and driving age is 21. Autobahn is safer than the #1 (the 401 is like Damnation Alley) and everyone deals with it. Not everyone in Germany lives near public transport, they seem to manage. A 21 year old is not going to do half of the stupid crap that a 16 year old would do. Besides, you should be in Post Secondary education for at least 3 to 4 years to make yourself a better person.




Jon.

...dang, you make a solid arguement.

BUT i still have to go with Ryan on this one.

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Works quite well in Germany. Drinking age is 17 (I think) and driving age is 21. Autobahn is safer than the #1 (the 401 is like Damnation Alley) and everyone deals with it. Not everyone in Germany lives near public transport, they seem to manage. A 21 year old is not going to do half of the stupid crap that a 16 year old would do. Besides, you should be in Post Secondary education for at least 3 to 4 years to make yourself a better person.




Jon.

If I couldn't get my license untill I turned 21, you can bet your ass I'd be doing all the stupid crap I did when I was 16. Only difference is when I was 16 all I could afford was a geo metro, and now I have a built GTR.

New flash though, not everyone is fit for post secondary. What about people who want to start a business? Or tradesworkers? You honestly expect to get a job as a welder or pipefitter anywhere without the ability to drive? Riiiiight.

Oh, and the legal driving age in Germany is 17.

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Many places in the world, especially in Europe have much much harder driving exams. The driving standards in Canada are scary low. Our driving tests are a joke. Anybody from the UK can tell you how much harder it is to get your license there.

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This is true. I'm all for a better driver training program, I think that is a viable solution, but raising the age to drive isn't. I'm sure a lot of you saw that Top Gear that illustrated what Finland has for their drivers ed program. I know in the UK you need a difference license for driving an automatic and a standard as well..

Honestly, who ever drives like they learned in drivers training? Doing 5 under the limit and driving like how they "teach" you to will, in my opinion, cause more accidents than just being a normal driver who is attentive and drives defensively.

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i think it really depends on the maturity level.

a later age dosent mean better driver, more education dosent make a better driver. usually the first time any male gets his license 90% of the time you drive like a dik no matter what age, ive had middle aged men screw around beside me at lights ect. were are the cops lol? but i think i have had more younger people act like idiots around me.

i also think when you have to pay insurance, gas, car, maintnece you will drastically change your driving habbits unless you have money pouring out your rear.

ive had 4 very cheap cars before i got my R32. imo getting your license and jumping to a GTR or supra RX7 w/e is a bad mistake.

ive had a friend drive his FD into a pole while racing a mustang down a residential. he tells me his dad is buying him a mk4 supra now, but almost 8 months later he is driving a rusted out honda (good)

[Oakville]

ive had 4 very cheap cars before i got my R32. imo getting your license and jumping to a GTR or supra RX7 w/e is a bad mistake.

exactly. right now, at 17, im driving a '90 accord, PAINFULLY automatic (shifts unlike anything ive EVER seen ) and 4 cyl. I have more acceleration on my skateboard. i cant knock it though, after years of begging, working for my parents, and just being plain annoying, my dad bought it for me despite EVERY thought in my families heads. i NEVER wouldve expected him to, but it was a steal from his friend's dealer, so im happy. I have 4 MOTORIZED wheels

R32 soon.

[NismoS-tune]

I had 5 vehicles before the skylines and I gotta say the 5L rustang was trickier to drive year round lol. It doesn't matter what you drive unless your parents help you in some way to get it. Whether it's living in your mom's basement, parent's buying the car or paying your bills. I say this because if they help you get a sports car, you're obviously not mature enough since you couldn't get it on your own since you'd rather a sports car than your own place to live or your priorities are messed up. Sports cars should come after responsibilities. My

I had 1 car and a truck when I lived at home. Parent's didn't pay for any of them but I still lived there. I wasn't responsible enough back then so that's why I had a POS lumina Z34 and a old POS 79 F250 lol.

[Oakville]

It doesn't matter what you drive unless your parents help you in some way to get it. Whether it's living in your mom's basement, parent's buying the car or paying your bills. I say this because if they help you get a sports car, you're obviously not mature enough since you couldn't get it on your own since you'd rather a sports car than your own place to live or your priorities are messed up. Sports cars should come after responsibilities. My

the world makes so much sense.

[C-unit]

Really, so if parents buy you a sports and you live with them?? You are no mature and have messed up priority???? Everyone were born differently, some are richer than the other and I believe maturity level has nothing to do with wealthiness. To a wealthy man, buying their son a sport car is just like you buying your son a PS3 or a new guitar. I agree that giving a sport car to a young kid is not a good idea because they don't have the experience to handle the car. However, I don't agree if you parents buy you a sport car, you have your priority messed up. To me, I just sense jealousy...

I dont understand why everyone like to bash the kids who got a car from his parents. Good for you if you make your own money and buy your own car, but why hate on the guys who was born wealthier??? So one day you work hard and get rich..you are going to tell your kid to take the bus?? Don't you work harder just so your family will have a better life??? I don't see a problem getting my kid a car if the kids are well behave and mature.